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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:21 AM
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When will the right's hatred of us culminate in bloodshed?
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 12:26 AM by Jara sang
I can't help but feeling that all this hatred the right is fomenting for those of on the left will culminate in bloodshed. Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and the like have whipped their listenerships up into a seething mass of hatred and intolerance in the flesh. So when will one of them spill our blood? When will one of them snap and "go postal" on a liberal gathering? For goodness sakes they are sending death threats to 15 year old girl for speaking her mind. If our blood is spilled, it will be right wing pundits, right wing bloggers and FoxNews to blame.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:25 AM
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1. When we start burning flags over the proposed amendment
I'm stocking up on bandages and ointment.

Honestly, it's the first thing that crossed my mind since it's imminent.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:28 AM
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2. I've often wondered that myself
The fever pitch is rising. There seems to be a great reluctance to put words into action, but the signs are definitely there. Death threats seem to be the MO of the right-wing crazies.

If anything even resembling what you say happens, I think the shockwaves will reverberate around the country.

And I shudder to think what happens next.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:31 AM
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3. When it becomes "economically feasible" to start a civil war
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 12:34 AM by Selatius
If the economic elites in the country no longer feel the US should exist in its current form and have exhausted all peaceful remedies to subjugate the populace to their will, they will resort to open violence to get their way.

The war wouldn't be a war between conservatism and liberalism per se. It would be a war between the poor and the rich. To the rich, it doesn't matter if you are pro-life or pro-choice or if you are for or against the notion of gay marriage; those are side-issues and jokes to people who are primarily concerned with money and the exertion of power over all. No war has ever been started that did not benefit somebody rich and powerful.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:03 AM
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10. It Would be The Robber Barons + the Fundies vs. The Rest of Us
The war wouldn't be a war between conservatism and liberalism per se. It would be a war between the poor and the rich. To the rich, it doesn't matter if you are pro-life or pro-choice or if you are for or against the notion of gay marriage; those are side-issues and jokes to people who are primarily concerned with money and the exertion of power over all.


I prefer the term "robber barons", as I would prefer to judge people by their actions, rather than their income.
A lot of people you would probably consider "rich" are on our side. In fact, I think most are.

On the other hand, a great many people who are undoubtably poor, at least by US standards, side with their
oppressors due to the unholy alliance between the robber barons and the fundies. The Catholic Church
has weighed in very heavily on their side as well under the new Pope. The neocons are well aware of the
historical record of theocracies, and how they remain in power no matter how repressive they become.

Can't have a proper case of class warfare when each class is divided against itself.

No war has ever been started that did not benefit somebody rich and powerful.


That is true, but they are all far from benefitting everybody who is rich or powerful.
The only stock that have done really well are the war stocks, especially those whose principals are
now members of the regime. Everybody else did better when Clinton was President.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 03:26 AM
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16. "This is the way the world ends,
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 03:27 AM by MGD
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
not with a bang, but a whimper"
T.S. Elliot
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:33 AM
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4. I've wondered that myself
I'm just glad the people I associate myself with are either a) liberals or b) sane/relatively intelligent conservatives (cos it's good to have diversity). I don't associate with the Freeper filth.

EEEk. I don't wanna die!! I'm only 14!! Think they'll spare my life? I doubt it. If they won't spare the life of a 6 month year old Iraqi baby, then I doubt the'll spare the life of a 14 year old girl...

:scared: :scared:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:34 AM
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5. August 2005, Katrina NOLA
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:38 AM
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6. They'll Unleash The Fundies If/When Election Fraud Is No Longer Enough
If the Fundies are really 29% then we're completely screwed.:scared:
Hope it's a lot less and the pollsters have just been lying about their numbers.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:58 AM
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12. Don't understand what you are saying?
Of course not all of the 29% are Fundies.
There are the young Hitler youth
Then there are the older Catholic women who
started voting Repulican during Eisenhower's times and think
of things in weird and unchanging terms
There are the 1% who are the Corporate Head Honchos

All together that may be 29% (I suspect that there is noteven close to 29%)

But the only way I see us as being screwed is because of voting machinery
and election list scrubbing and everything else that went on in Ohio and wlsewhere
on Nov 2 2004
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:47 AM
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7. After the Bush Royal Family inserts another of their own in 2008...
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 01:02 AM by GreenTea
Then after BushCo sets the boundaries, increases the terrorist fear among Americans, it'll pave the way for continued (only much worse) corporate fascism and they will question your patriotism on every level...and take you away if you open your mouth...Ol' Jebbie will come out of nowhere for BushCo to keep fascism from losing any of the ground that they've already cultivated..If this occurs and Jeb indeed steps in, our vote will absolutely be stolen...Truly, then(if not already)it's time to get your passport in order - It remains to be seen...However, don't discount anything!
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:50 AM
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8. if it happens, it will prove that this country is irrevocably damaged.
that would be a sad commentary. RW hacks on radio and tv killed a nation.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 11:14 AM
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25. Too late -- it is already irrevocably damaged.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:53 AM
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9. when they are told to
and that dick cheney will guarantee their pardons
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:05 AM
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11. When the right wing tries to void Roe v Wade
and classify women as 2nd class citizens.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:35 AM
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13. They would never do that...
It would cause unrest, They need Roe to get millions in donation and to get millions of Christians out to vote...Most republican politicians don't care if Roe is legal, they just use it for political use and gain, they need it...

Because the have the congress, senate, presidency & Supreme Court in their pocket if they wanted it illegal they could do it tomorrow...It's NOT to their benefit, that's all they care about.

just satisfy their sheep and make it harder to get an abortion...while indeed legislating, slowly to make woman second class citizen's.

But make no mistake, they don't want abortion to be completely illegal....they need those non issues, desperately, to point fingers at the Dem's.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:36 AM
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14. Good question
I had a RW nut try to hit my car with a shopping cart in the grocery store lot. He used his truck to push the cart into my parked car. The only time I appreciated a stuck wheel on a shopping cart, it veered off in another direction. He was probably riled up listening to the radio in his truck because I didn't know the man.

I have seen more overt rudeness out shopping - mainly (well-to-do) older men who are seething with anger.

America is under seige of mental abuse and someone will definately snap, thinking they will be a hero for the cause.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 03:13 AM
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15. See Timothy McVeigh
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 03:14 AM by tinfoil tiaras
and other way far-right loonies that have gone too far.

BTW, where do you live? Cause I live in Mississippi and my car (it has a democratic bumpersticker on it) has never been assulted. The worst that's happened to it is when someone put a Bush bumpersticker on it....
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:01 PM
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17. NW Washington
there are lots of well-to-do retired folks in the town where I live. They have lots of time to listen to media I guess.
Some - and definately not all seem to harbor resentments.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:25 PM
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18. Oh wow
I always thought that Washington was a really democratic state........
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:54 AM
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19. Most of the western part is
but retirees have turned a once solid democratic stronghold in the far NW into repub territory.

:mad:
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 11:10 AM
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23. West like where Seattle is?
Yeah, i've always wanted to go there...

Jackson has to be the most democratic part of Mississippi. Exept for maybe the Delta, cause they've got a democratic congressman. Ironically, the gulf coast, which is a super republican area, has a democratic congressman (Gene Taylor).

That sucks about the retirees... =( =(
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:16 AM
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21. Not to be disagreeable
But your car has been assaulted if someone put a bumper sticker on it without your permission. It's your property, no one has a right to adhere anything to it other than yourself unless you give them permission.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 11:11 AM
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24. Seriously? I could sue
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 11:12 AM by tinfoil tiaras
Sweet...i love the smell of repukes going doowwwwnnn in the morning... :evilgrin:

But we never found out who did it... =(

BTW, you're not being disagreeable, IMHO.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:35 AM
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20. Matthew Shepard? NOLA? Clinic bombings?
And we won't even talk about what trickle down has done to poor neighborhoods.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:17 AM
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22. Soon.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 11:15 AM
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26. I have foreseen it. This bloodshed will be another civil war...
It is will start if Warren Jeffs is involved in a bloody battle with the federal government. The freepers will feel betrayed and going through withdrawal from the BushCo kool-aid is like getting off heroin. It will be a very hard landing for them. Violence is inevitable in these gun toting nuts. I may not be our blood per se, but it will be blood.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 11:31 AM
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27. lets just start at 1900
violent repression of Unions & union organizing
violent repression of Socialism
sedition act
hoovervilles
bonus army
relocation camps for japanese americans
HUAC
KKK
violent repression of civil rights movement
JFK
RFK
MLK
violent repression of anti war movement
oklahoma city
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 11:35 AM
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28. we have a winner...
and of course you could go back before then as well, if you wanted
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:51 PM
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29. i have to make it through the day without being really angry
so i started halfway through.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:55 PM
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30. Meaning in a very obvious way, I guess.
My first thought was it already has. Like Katrina.

How many people have suffered for lack of insurance (health) or how about the lack of coal mine safety.

Unfortunately I think a less blatant violence is an inherent part of the entire * agenda.

The hate isn't only in the rhetoric, it is in their actions and lack of action.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:08 PM
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31. These are Republicans
For Republicans the rape of a African_american woman is the greatest sacrament. For Republicans the finest meal possible is a roasted baby.

they have been killing us for years.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:14 PM
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32. I have had a couple of scary incidents, verbal only, at this
time while precinct walking in the past, but for the most part the Republicans have been civil. It's a really small base that they are appealing to who are the white supremists and those who lean that way even though they don't belong to the gangs.

The card carrying Aryan's, KKK and others consider themselves to be Christians, as well, but their version of Christ is a very non-Jewish, Nordic looking guy. The most rabid among them are gang bangers no different than any gang banger who came out of a ghetto.

When I lived in the Spokane area, just about every crime that happened in that area was eventually traced back to the members of these Aryan churches and compounds. Of course when the churches were questioned about this, they always claimed the offenders were former members and they hadn't seen them in a while. Also, part of their indoctrination is to mistrust the government and to be above it. They don't have to follow the law because white Jebus and the bible said they didn't have to.

I think this also bleeds from the Christian fundamentalist, dominionists churches. They believe they are above the law and are answerable only to the Bible. This is the base that the hate mongers are whipping into a frenzy. These are the people who are threatening the fifteen year old girl.

This is why they have to blame everything including the media on the liberals. In the minds of these people "liberal" equals "Satan" equals the "government". I believe they have been told in the churches that George Bush is one of them and that he is going to break the back of the evil government and bring Christianity back into government while banishing all the people of color who could possibly pollute their Christ given white genes.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:21 PM
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33. As soon as they start losing elections, get ready for violence.
As soon as their grip on power losens, expect to start seeing abortian clinic bombings again, and possibly federal buildings getting blown up.

This is the underbelly of the right-wing. Notice the minute their guys were in charge the Pro-Life Terrorism stopped? Expect it to start the DAY the Democrats have a majority in ANY branch of the fedgov.
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