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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:05 AM
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now its official, the USA is a dictatorship
Bush ignores laws he inks, vexing Congress

By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 21 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A bill becomes the rule of the land when Congress passes it and the president signs it into law, right?

Not necessarily, according to the White House. A law is not binding when a president issues a separate statement saying he reserves the right to revise, interpret or disregard it on national security and constitutional grounds.

That's the argument a Bush administration official is expected to make Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Arlen Specter, R-Pa., who has demanded a hearing on a practice he considers an example of the administration's abuse of power.

"It's a challenge to the plain language of the Constitution," Specter said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I'm interested to hear from the administration just what research they've done to lead them to the conclusion that they can cherry-pick."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060627/ap_on_go_co/bush_signing_statements_6

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:08 AM
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1. Yes, we will change the law to accomodate what he wants
Meanwhile, I will probably move to France, really piss off the Americans then.
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wizdum Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:11 AM
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2. Maybe the Mexicans will save us from the dictatorship.
They can really post some numbers at a rally. That's what it'll take to unseat the dictatorship.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:14 AM
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3. The Mexicans and the rest of the Hispanics
I just hope the dictatorship continues with their immigrant bashing cause it will blow up in their face.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:16 AM
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4. Congress needs to do its job.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:20 AM
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5. Just you wait until 2009!
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 04:22 AM by LaPera
Or even after the November elections, nothing to stop the fascist then....You ain't seen nothing yet!!

Unfortuantely, there will be nothing to stop them....except revolt!!!
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:22 AM
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6. And the people can't figure out how it happened they say
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 04:26 AM by Asgaya Dihi
I feel like some must have in 1930's Germany sometimes, trying to explain to the people that sure the party has a good retirement plan but look at what they are doing to the Jews.

Over recent decades we've (as a nation, both parties) built a prison system that's so racially imbalanced one young black man in eight is behind bars as I type this (www.prisonsucks.com), we've watched death rates climb by several times instead of fall in the harder drugs, and we've given up one right after another to no knock warrants and other tools for the fight as long as it was just the drug users who lost their rights. Somehow though it never stayed at them, rights don't work that way.

It's also the single most imprisoned nation in the world in terms of our own people, Russia and China aren't even close to us these days.

We did everything we could to build the booming stock market, everything we could to move people into it, allowed one round of business and media consolidation after another with both parties in charge and now we complain at the results of our work. Business is all that matters these days and consolidation hasn't worked out for us, now that they've had a taste they want more. We live in the nation we created and under the possibilities that we as a nation worked hard to create. Now that it's come home to hit most of us instead of mostly the minorities, now it's a problem.

Maybe I need to take a break from politics for a while, I'm starting to get cynical and thinking we deserve what we're getting. We didn't mind so much when the stock market was good and it was just happening to others, generally the poor. We didn't even notice it. Now we mind because now we might share their fate.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:31 AM
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14. "Uncertainty is a very important factor,"
http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free.html

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What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.

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"To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it - please try to believe me - unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, "regretted," that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these "little measures" that no "patriotic German" could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.

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"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, "everyone is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there will be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to you colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, "It's not so bad" or "You're seeing things" or "You're an alarmist."
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:42 AM
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7. Specter hasn't been paying attention
Bush** & Co cherrypick everything -- from what it means to be a "real" American and who qualifies, to war intelligence, to what questions they'll answer and whether it'll be under oath, and so on, all the way on up to whether or not the Constitution applies to them. They don't do research. They get political cronies to provide evidence that supports decisions they've already made.

Let me clue you in, Senator, since you're obviously too STUPID to get it on your own. YOU and the rest of your pitiful party helped Bush** do it all...including the signing statements that have led to your WTF moment.

Five years and this idiot is still wandering around in confused circles. I suppose that's progress: most of the GOPigs are still in BushCo's thrall and aren't even asking questions.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:25 AM
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8. Fuck Specter.


I'm tired of that asshole trying to make it look like he cares.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:37 AM
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9. About to say the same thing
Fuck him. Honestly I hate him more than the real lunatics like Frist, etc because there's no doubt about what they think.

Spector is always "concerned" or "curious" or "interested in hearing" or something else meant to look like he gives a shit.

In the end he's a pathetic lapdog and will roll over when the administration tells him to. It's a huge game and unfortunately we see some on our side of the aisle playing it too.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:04 AM
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11. He's like a democrat
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:02 AM
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10. Dictatorship is a heckuvalot easier, innit?
:puke:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:04 AM
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12. "Just so long as I'm the dictator."
Well I can meet him half-way, he is the dick, now about the 'tator part, Ron White might be able to help him out with that.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:23 AM
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13. DictatorTot..
... is more like it :)
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