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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:23 AM
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here is a link to the ev-1 electric vehicle, including links to early
electric powered autos. also including a link to the Chrysler turbine engine auto.
Just in Case anyone is interested.


http://americanhistory.si.edu/onthemove/collection/object_1303.html

jay leno offered 1,000,000 bucks for one of the ev-1's for his car collection but was turned down

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:29 AM
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1. Another odd tidbit -- Leno is also into collecting steam cars
In fact, I think he owns a rebuilt Stanley Steamer. I happened upon his mug one day while doing some reading about external combustion vehicles.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:39 AM
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2. yes he does and he featured it in one of his articles for Popular Mechanic
jay is a republican but I like him for his automotive enthusiasm, never watch the tonight show tho'
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:44 AM
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3. if you have any neat links to any of the alternates to internal combustion
powered vehicles I would love to have some. on this subject I am like a kid in a candy store. I did have several links but my hard drive crashed about a month back and I lost them. anyways :hi:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:26 AM
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9. Here's links to the Petersen Museum
Their current featured exhibit is "Alternative Power: Propulsion After Petroleum". if you have ever had the urge to get out of OK for a little while, that museum alone is well worth the trip to LA. Helpful hint: It's just a couple miles from the CBS Studios, so if you're making the trip, get tickets for the Bill Maher Show, and the museum is good way to spend the day.

http://www.petersen.org/

They even have a class.

http://www.petersen.org/default.cfm?docid=814&EventID=23
PUBLIC PROGRAMS & EVENTS

Alternative Fuels 101
Thursday, August 24, 2006, 7-9 pm 2nd floor Racing Corridor

What are alternative fuels? How do they power vehicles? How far has technology progressed in the use of these fuels for transpiration? John Frala, associate professor of the Alternative Fuel Training Program at Rio Hondo College, will guide you through the world of alternative fuel vehicles with actual examples of hybrid, fuel cell, bio-diesel, ethanol, and other types of vehicles. Explore prospected future fuel sources for cars and gauge what the future may hold for you.

Educational programs are free for Museum members (unless otherwise noted) or included in the general admission for non-members: adults $10, seniors & students $5, children $3, and children under 5, free. Museum re-opens at 6:30 pm. Tickets include admission to 2nd floor galleries (unless otherwise noted).

For information or reservations, please call 323-964-6347.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:40 AM
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11. Thank you
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:08 AM
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4. I was lucky enough to get a ride in an EV-1
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 08:15 AM by MindPilot
It's an amazing experience since the power band really--isn't. It produces pretty much exactly the same torque at zero rpm as it does at full speed and amidst an almost dead silence, it feels like it will never stop accelerating.

The Petersen Automotive Museum in LA has a Chrysler Turbine in its collection. I think one of the prettiest cars ever.

On edit: IIRC Ford produced a turbine-powered over-the-road tractor on its L-series cab-over chassis in the sixties. If memory serves it could out-pull just about anything else on the road at the time, but on-going maintenance costs made it commercially impractical.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:56 AM
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7. my neighbor electrified a geo. drives it all the time
spin the tires like nobodys business. quite a little ride.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:10 AM
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5. OT: Leno's best line ever:
(albeit his writers' best line ever)

"Why are there two senators for every state? One of them is the designated driver." :D
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Buxtehude Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:36 AM
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6. The real question should be
Where are the EV-1s and why are they being eliminated?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:12 AM
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8. They were an experimental project.
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 10:12 AM by MindPilot
There are still a lot of technical challenges to overcome before an electric car can compete with gas cars. And that--not just building an electric car--is what what will make it commercially viable. The range is too short, recharge times too long, and costs too high.

Personally, I think it would be way better to spend billions developing an electric car than spend trillions attempting control the world's oil price, but that's just me.

edit: spelling
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:46 AM
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12. With the new lithium nano technology batteries the divide is getting
smaller. not sure about the name of the new batteries but Dewalt have a new line of 36 volt power tools using the batteries, real promising.
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Buxtehude Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:54 PM
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14. I saw this the other day
is the reason I asked.
Down the memory hole
Just a decade ago, a fleet of sleek all-electric American cars were zooming around California. But the beloved EV1 was killed by a massive conspiracy that's still at work today trying to annihilate all memory of the gasoline-free vehicle.

The first batch of General Motors' EV1 battery-powered automobiles hit the streets in 1996, to meet new California requirements that emission-free cars make up 2% of new inventory by the mid-1990s. There were 5,000 people on the waiting list to lease one of the sleek EV1s, but California abruptly backtracked on the zero-emissions law and GM killed the whole program in 2003.

Heartbroken EV1 drivers were literally forced to return the lease-only vehicles -- and then General Motors smashed the futuristic cars to bits. One of the few surviving EV1s was at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History, part of an exhibit of advances in automobile technology. Suddenly, it's gone.


http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/06/electric_car_do.php
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:53 AM
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10. How about the new compressed air cars?


The air compressor is, of course, electric...

After twelve years of reserch and development, Guy Negre has developed an engine that could become one of the biggest technological advances of this century. Its application to CAT vehicles gives them significant economical and environmental advantages. With the incorporation of bi-energy (compressed air + fuel) the CAT Vehicles have increased their driving range to close to 2000 km with zero pollution in cities and considerably reduced pollution outside urban areas... http://www.theaircar.com/
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:50 AM
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13. I read of a cabinet shop near here a few years ago that used
an air powered air compressor. they used a wind generator to pump air rather than electric and were real pleased with the results. used electric compressors as backup. cabinet shops use lots of air powered tools.
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