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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:05 PM
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Doesn't the doctrine of infallibility really come from the Neocons?
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 01:07 PM by Fridays Child
Ann Coulter says that Liberals "...send out victims to make their points for them so that we can't respond." Yet, every single day, George Bush and the Neocons send out the 3,000+ dead souls of September 11 to make their points for them and, then, they tell us that, if we disagree, we are "for the terrorists."

Which side has the real doctrine of infallibility?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:44 PM
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1. Self-indulgent kick
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:49 PM
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2. It's the pope who claims infallibility
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 01:49 PM by Generic Other
Those morans are blasphemers.

:sarcasm:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:04 PM
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3. Not being Roman Catholic...
...I was unaware that any mortal actually claims infallibility. Unless the sarcasm tag means that you're joking, I find that disturbing.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 03:57 PM
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4. The doctrine of papal infallibility
<snip>
The First Vatican Council has defined as "a divinely revealed dogma" that "the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra -- that is, when in the exercise of his office as pastor and teacher of all Christians he defines, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the whole Church -- is, by reason of the Divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer wished His Church to be endowed in defining doctrines of faith and morals; and consequently that such definitions of the Roman Pontiff are irreformable of their own nature (ex sese) and not by reason of the Church's consent" --Infallibility at the Catholic Encyclopedia <1913> <snip>

http://www.zpub.com/un/pope/infal.html

Hard to win an argument against someone with this kind of power. ;)

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:07 PM
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5. So...was John Paul speaking ex cathedra when he condemned...
...capital punishment? Because I remember, some years ago, freeper Catholics took the position that JP was just opining on the issue and not actually issuing a formal edict. And they did the same thing when he condemned the Iraq invasion.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:26 PM
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7. I guess even popes have to fill out the paperwork?
:shrug:

It does seem as if a pope's word should be the final one no matter what--unless you are a heretic or a heathen, of course.

Coulter made an accurate analogy. The 9/11 widows' views are sacrosanct, like the pope's is to Catholics, and it bugs the hell out of Coulter that she is seen as a blasphemer for attacking the widows. They have the moral highground. It was their pain and suffering. And Coulter wants a piece of it. She's wicked.

If Coulter was debating her own grandmother, she'd try to knock the cane out from under the old lady as she hobbled up to the podium.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:12 PM
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6. since neocons use character assasination as one of their main tools
of course we have to send the blameless out to make a point. And Ms. Coulter certainly proved that attacking the unassailable is not only possible, but that she's done it unabashedly and unapologetically.

Only a neocon would dare complain about an unfair situation they created, which now puts them at disadvantage.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:33 PM
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8. Nobody can say that Neocons are irony deficient,.
;)
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