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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:58 AM
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Sen. Feinstein: Why Amend To Protect A Flag While The Constitution Burns?
The Flag is the symbol of the nation-- the Constitution is the Living Document that establishes, defines and guides the nation. Why would you stand and speak today in support of-- and vote for-- a flag protection amendment to the Constitution; to the Constitution that you are not protecting in your sworn duty as a California Senator?

You sit on the Judiciary Committee that has-- in a few short months-- smoothly delivered to the Supreme Court two advocates of the Unitary Executive, one of whom is the designer of the "signing statements" creatively utilized by President Bush and one who had minimal experience on the bench before being appointed CHIEF Justice. It was smooth sailing also for General Hayden, the "architect" of the FISA-violating domestic spying program who was promoted (when the program should have been investigated) to head the National Security Agency.

Today the Judiciary Committee heard testimony on presidential signing statements, which Ranking Member Leahy called "a grave threat to our constitutional system of checks and balances." Bruce Fein, attorney and renowned legal scholar, told the committee that Bush has essentially given himself a line item veto power by declaring portions of new laws unconstitutional and offering his own revisions.

"These statements, which have multiplied logarithmically under President George W. Bush, flout the Constitution's checks and balances and separation of powers. They usurp legislative prerogatives and evade accountability," Fein said. "The President does not enjoy a constitutional option of unilaterally pronouncing a provision he has signed into law as unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it on that count."

Citing Bush's behavior as "alarming," Fein suggested that the President could be impeached for "political crime(s) against the Constitution."

Your constituents depend on you for more than unchallenging questions and rubber stamp votes for the candidates, legislation and programs that enable a dangerous power grab by a Republican administration that is accountable to no one.

What is the point of protecting the symbol of our system of government if the Constitution itself is in shreds?






more at:
http://judiciary.senate.gov/testimony.cfm?id=1969&wit_i...
http://feingold.senate.gov/%7Efeingold/statements/06/06...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1519569&mesg_id=1519569
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:00 AM
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1. thank you. A Democrat being honest, blunt, and unapologetic
I hope it's contagious.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:07 AM
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3. Respectfully filed under: How stupid do they think we are?
:toast:
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:06 AM
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2. Excellent.
What the Hell IS wrong with DiFi? Money?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:21 AM
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5. Who is Richard Blum?
Thanks
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:58 AM
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20. Isn't Richard Blum her war profiteering husband?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:19 AM
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4. Full disclosure: text and quotes in middle cobbled from the link
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:27 AM
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6. Damn excellent!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:35 AM
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7. Much obliged NVMojo-- are you in favor of reminding our representatives
that they represent us (supposedly)? :hi:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:56 AM
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8. That is the strongest that I have heard DiFi speak
...and I like it! :thumbsup:


recomended
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:40 AM
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9. Good ole DiFi didn't say this - she voted for the ban today! The OP is a
statement directed towards DiFi - asking her why she wants to protect the very flag when the Constitution it represents is in tatters and is being pissed on daily by this administration.

I am so disgusted by Diane Feinstein I can barely speak....I did not vote in the primary and I even wrote her office that after she voted to confirm the former head of the NSA as our new CIA director that I had enough of her. I have been seriously debating whether to hold my nose and vote for her in November just so we can retain and possibly take the Senate back, but I tell you when I heard today that she voted for the Constitutional Amendment banning the burning and desecration of the flag, I just about lost it. I love our flag, but I love our Constitution more and the thought that she would try to ban something that is a matter of free speech just did me in. I will not vote for her in November. Can't do it. I'll just vote on other matters and leave her blank.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:09 AM
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10. I think you should still vote...
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 03:12 AM by calipendence
... just perhaps look at Todd Chretien instead. Normally I try to vote for just Democrats as this forum is about. But I think that Todd (though from the greens) talks a lot more like the Dems should be than Feinstein does. In some respects, he sounds better than Medea Benjamin did when I voted for her against DiFi six years ago from the Greens.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:16 AM
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11. I was thinking of voting with the Green Party instead....I just cannot
vote for her anymore....all these years, agreeing with some things with her and then being outraged like now. I've just reached my limit with her...and I completely understand the importance of keeping as many Dems in the Senate, but I'm tired of voting for her because she's the only choice. Diane Feinstein is more of a Republican than a Democrat and if people vote for her, they might as well be voting for a Republican.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:47 AM
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12. Yes, I'm seriously considering not voting for her in Nov. too. If it's
close (doubtful) I probably will as a Republican would be slightly worse, but I may be looking at the Green candidate pretty closely.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:21 AM
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14. She was even one of the cosponsors. (nt)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:17 AM
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17. Thanks for correction: Hayden heads CIA not NSA......
Pachamama, it's outrageous we don't have another option, in an election all about As Many Dems As Possible-- she doesn't deserve any votes. Her blue suit was beautiful while she stood there and sold out the future. Her sanctimony has always been annoying-- now it's off the scale.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:07 AM
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13. Ding ding ding ding ding!!! Give the lady a cigar. She get's it
right. I don't get people who revere the flag while discarding the Constitution.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:03 AM
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15. This coming from the person
who wants to destroy the foundation of our country by eliminating the 2nd amendment? :wtf:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:16 AM
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16. Right on!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:23 AM
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18. Saw Biden on the Floor yesterday calling them on the outrageous diversion
from important matters. (As I remember he was one of a handful of people pointing out that Hayden and the Program needed investigation, not promotion)

Meanwhile, even as he is calling them on one aspect of their bullshit, the notion of protecting the Flag and NOT defending the Constitution jumped out at me. Unfortunately, the OP title has some thinking that Feinstein actually said this!! :rofl:

Cheers momcat :hug: :toast:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:45 PM
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22. Maybe he will!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:27 AM
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19. OP is my letter TO Feinstein. Sorry if that was confusing
Forgot:

"Dear Senator Feinstein"



:hi:
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 11:06 AM
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21. The Constitution has been viciously ravaged
by the Republican party.

They do not love country. They place Party and power over love of Country.
Any republican who has remained silent during the wiretapping scandal, Gitmo torture, Abu Ghraib torture, the energy task force meetings in the white house, the Abramof Scandal, failure to conduct ethics investigations into the crooked Republicans currently under investigation. Delay, Boehner (BONER),
Santorum, Gingrich (raising ugly head again), Ralph Reed.

These people worship power and the dollar. they should be tried for treason.



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