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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:39 PM
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"I was afraid people would smell me on the plane & think I'm a smoker!"
Because I realize there haven't been enough smoking threads lately :) This argument just struck me as particularly overwrought.

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While waiting for her flight back to Reno on Monday, Charlene Herst ate at a sports bar at McCarran International Airport.

As she ate, the manager of chronic disease control for the Nevada State Health Division took note of the restaurant's customers. None was smoking.

"I was afraid people would smell me on the plane and think that I was this heavy smoker," she recalled. "People need to understand: The smoke is in the walls. It's in the flooring. It remains behind after the smoker has left."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jun-28-Wed-2006/news/8193685.html
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:42 PM
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1. I would just be afraid the other passengers wouldn't like me
because I stink.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:43 PM
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2. But that would be a huge blessing
They wouldn't talk to you, and they might even move to an empty seat and give you more room.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:43 PM
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3. I just can't imagine this smell invading her chemise from the walls. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:44 PM
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6. Maybe she's one of those who has stock in the companies that make
Nicorette, Commit, and that new nicotine water!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:50 PM
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11. Good god....what was she doing to the walls!
:+
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:51 PM
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13. ...
:spray:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:43 PM
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4. Overwrought? I'll say.
If her issue was that she could smell the stale smoke on herself that's one thing, but worried that others would take her for a smoker? Poor baby is probably afraid of the dark too.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:44 PM
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5. If you think THAT argument is particularly overwrought,
wait until you see some of the responses this thread is apt to draw! Good luck, Bluebear.
:hi:
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:44 PM
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7. Well, it is true.
Her argument being that the smoke and smell stick around, not that people thinking she's a smoker is the end of the world.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:49 PM
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37. That's an undeniable consequence of sitting in a smoke-cloud.
Non smokers leave smelling like an ashtray, same as the smokers.
None of the posters here are denying that, are they?

I guess the lady doesn't enjoy smelling like cigarette smoke. Well, I don't either.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:45 PM
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8. Oh, fuck. Spare me.
Redstone
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:46 PM
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9. "What will the neighbors think!" "Oh, no! I might be judged!"
"Complete strangers that I will never see again might think ill of me!"

alrighty then

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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:18 PM
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49. Agreed... fuck 'em....like I care what a "stranger" thinks of me.... *grin
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:47 PM
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10. Okay...
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 04:47 PM by Spider Jerusalem
anyone who is THAT worried about the misperceptions other people may have of them needs to get into therapy. Why the fuck should you care if people think you're a smoker if you AREN'T A SMOKER? What a moron. I'm going to have to see if I can find any photos of this woman online and Photoshop a lit cigarette in her mouth/hand/etc., and Googlebomb so that they're the FIRST RESULTS when you search for her name in Google or Google Image search. Because her shallow fucking stupidity annnoys me THAT much.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:51 PM
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12. Realtors are now saying smoking hurts sales. That has to hurt.
When we bought our home two rooms especially smelled horribly of cigarette smoke. But we were going to renovate so it wasn't an issue.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:52 PM
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14. But did your clothes stink from entering said rooms once?
That's the part I don't get from this story. She ate at a grill in which nobody was smoking, and claims she reeked after leaving the joint.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:58 PM
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18. I went into a convenience store yesterday that absolutely
reeked. No one was smoking. It was a very heavy smell and my clothes smelled so bad I had to change when I got home. I was there for maybe 5 minutes.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:39 PM
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23. I find that hard to believe.
Redstone
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:46 PM
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24. I can't tell you've never been to the "Toot and Moo"!
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:06 PM
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28. It probably is a sensitive nose issue
I certainly have a sensitive nose - often to my dismay. :D

My sil smokes. Even if she airs out her place, and doesn't smoke all day, I can still smell it. If I spend only five minutes at her place, I smell the smoke on my clothes and hair.

Dh misses most of the smells that I pick up. Lucky guy.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:58 PM
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19. there's one guy here at work who is an avid smoker..
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 05:01 PM by frylock
I had to go in his cube to do some work on his system, and it reeked like he'd been firing up heaters all day in there. I could smell it my clothing when I left his cube, and I was there maybe 10 minutes.

Edited to note that there is no smoking allowed in the building (duh), but the smell was residual from his clothing. He wasn't even present at the time.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:18 PM
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22. Maybe from sitting on an upholstered chair.
Oh, dear. It used to be toilet seats they warned us about.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:47 PM
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25. She left her joint. TRAGEDY!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:20 PM
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50. Smokers and pet owners have to accept the fact that when they
put their houses up for sale they must replace carpeting, remove poprcorn ceiling stuff, replace drapes...remove fabric items, and slap on freshj paint..and then smoke only outside until the house sells..

We have lots of kitties, and we are already prepared to actually MOVE out of our house before we sell, so that there is no risk of a kitty being accidentally let out and to eliminate any "pet smells"... we will leave enough furnishings to "decorate" the house, but the goal is to remove any personal remnants...we'll want to sell it, so we will do what it takes.

Houses usually sell fast around here, so we are hoping it's that way in a few years when we move on :)
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:56 PM
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15. the point of the article is that smoking/non-smoking sections are a joke..
it wasn't about her concern over people passing judgement on her because she stunk like an ashtray.
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:57 PM
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16. After an evening at a post-smoking-ban bar,
my clothes smelled of smoke. It can happen. Unusual, but it's happened to me.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:58 PM
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17. Naw. I think people won't like her...
because she's a sanctimonious asshole. The smell is nothing compared to that.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:03 PM
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20. sef delete
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 06:00 PM by Emit


On edit -- never mind
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:04 PM
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21. oh my f**cking god
what BS. I almost want to start smoking again because crap like this pisses me off so much.

And for the record, there are quite a few places I've been to that smell worse post-smoking ban - they stink of B.O., urine, and who knows what else. I think I am going to start telling people they stink and that they should freaking take a bath more often.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:41 PM
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36. PERFUMES STINK!
Before you go telling people that they have body odor, consider that some of us are HIGHLY sensitive to perfumes and other such substances!

I get a headache instantly when I am near someone who is drenched in too much perfume or cologne.

I THINK ALL PERFUMES AND COLOGNES SHOULD BE BANNED!!! ESPECIALLY IN ELEVATORS AND ON AIRPLANES AND IN SUBWAYS AND BUSSES!!!!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:59 PM
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38. Yes, thank you!
I hate perfume & cologne too! I actually prefer the smell of a ripe armpit to strong perfume. Maybe I'm a little weird, but I don't think sweaty B.O. is nearly as bad as say, a perfume counter. I would get a headache if I hung around a perfume counter for 15 minutes.

Plus, I have allergies to many ingredients in skin lotions, especially the smelly kind.

Perfume is equally offensive as secondhand smoke, to me. I'd rather sit next to a ripe, sweaty, armpit any day of the week!

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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:01 AM
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43. I am one of those people
I have strong reactions to most perfumes, especially in the volumes people tend to use.

No, I just said I would tell them to bathe more.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:51 PM
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26. Smoking is banned inside here for the most part (Oregon)
but the liquor store is managed by a team of chain smokers. I suppose the vices go together, but I can run in and get a bottle of vodka and my hair, my clothes, my skin reeks of smoke. I usually change clothes when I get home, and I cannot wear those clothes to work again until washed as it stays in them.

here's my rant: :rant:

My mom is a stay-at-home, Fox News watching, Bush-backing chain-smoker and we have to sleep out in a room they built in the garage when we visit. I don't take in my coat or my shoes or anything, as they become instantly permeated with the smell of stale smoke. Even getting out of the shower and grabbing what you think is a clean towel, pulling it to your face and feeling like you are rubbing an ashtray across your clean, fresh skin... She also leaves a slab of butter on a small plate, out in the open, 24/7/365. The butter actually turns brown from the shit in the air. We usually don't eat there either, she has a cigarette hanging from her fingers as she prepares the food. I've seen lots of ash fall into our "meals" when I was growing up.. Sounds awful of me, the ungrateful daughter, but I have a lot of sinus problems when I am exposed to it and because of my 17 years of exposure to it. She chain-smoked while giving birth to me. It's sad!

Even our dog reeks of cigarettes after visiting "gramma and grampa". Sad thing is, my poor dad doesn't smoke and hasn't since I was maybe a year old. But his health has suffered as much or more than hers. I would absolutely hate to see pictures of their lungs. They both spend half the year with severe colds/flus/sinus infections. My mom refuses to go to the doctor for anything because she cannot find a doctor that doesn't tell her she needs to quit smoking. Complete denial. If it was just her killing herself slowly, that would be one thing. But she's taking my dad with her.



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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:00 PM
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27. Not disagreeing but...
The liquor store is being run by smokers. Your Mom is smoking in front of your dad. The lady in the sports bar, howvever, noted that NOBODY was smoking. But she was actually aradi (her words) that people would think she was a smoker. I just found this over the top is all.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:05 PM
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39. OK well, I AM disagreeing a little.
I still find myself trapped in opaque clouds of smoke in indoor establishments. Maybe you don't frequent the same places I do, but I am not aware of any laws banning indoor smoking in Oregon. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe the smoky places I've been to are just ignoring regulations?
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:21 AM
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46. Well it's called the Oregon Indoor Clean Air Act
Beginning January 1, 2002, most places of employment in Oregon must comply with Oregon's Indoor Clean Air Act, which bans smoking. A place of employment is an enclosed area that employees frequent during the workday. Substantial amendments to the Act will require Oregon employers, subject to limited exceptions, to provide a place of employment that is smoke-free. Employers are also required to post "No Smoking" signs at all entrances. The Act’s prior version covered only "public places.”

Places of employment where smoking is permitted are (1) tobacco shops, (2) bars, taverns, restaurants or areas of restaurants posted as off-limits to minors, (3) rooms or halls used to conduct bingo games, (4) bowling centers, (5) hotel or motel rooms designated as smoking rooms and (6) lounge areas meeting the criteria described below. If smoking is permitted in the entire establishment, the employer must post signs that state "This entire establishment is a SMOKING area" or a similar statement. Otherwise, designated smoking areas must be posted with signs that state, "Smoking Area" or "Smoking Permitted."

http://www.nsslaw.com/120701.htm

So for the most part, it isn't like it was. I had a boss that smoked in his office and even after Jan. 1, 2002 he kept doing it. Thankfully he retired in 2004 and we had the entire building cleaned and gutted and it is nice and new now. He smoked in there for 30 some years, the walls were brown.

Yes, many places still have indoor smoking in Oregon, but it is WAY better than it was before.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:04 PM
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47. Thank you for the info, Caoimhe.
I moved here in 2002, so that law must have passed my notice. Too little too late, I think. The super-smoky places where I have been are bars, and restaurants that serve hard alcohol, and nightclubs.

I had moved here from San Francisco, where smoking had already been banned in all restaurants, bars, and taverns. So Oregon, to me, seemed noticeably lax.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:13 PM
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29. I don't go near the street any more lest people think I'm a diesel engine.
Jesusfuckingchrist, get a LIFE, "Charlene"...
:eyes: :grr:
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:18 PM
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30. and I don't go near women wearing cheap perfume
lest people think I'm a hooker! (Charlene is probably the type who drowns herself in perfume and suffocates those around her.)
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:27 PM
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32. Considering some of the ingredients in perfume, you're probably
being most wise.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:02 AM
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44. and i stopped petting my dog and cat
for obvious reasons.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:21 PM
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31. nope ...not nearly enough threads ...
... declaring smokers are the "scum of the earth," "the scourge of society" ...
O8)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:27 PM
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34. Well I certainly don't think so.
:)
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:28 PM
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33. It's a free Country!
:smoke: Smoke em if you got em! :smoke:
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:39 PM
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35. What A STUPID Thing to Say!
OMG!

She is more afraid of what people might think of her than she is of the possibility that she might be breathing in some dangerous carcinogenic substance!

WHAT A STUPID LADY!!
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:02 PM
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40. Ciggie Smoke is EVERYWHERE in Vegas!
You can't walk in a casino, or on the sidewalk, or anywhere without cigarette smoke. Frankly, most people in McCarran probably smell the same as this person does, even if they don't smoke.

BTW, casinos would really go a long way towards attracting customers if they designated a "non-smoking gambling area". Nothing worse to a non-smoker than being on a winning streak and having some walking ashtray sit down next to you and light up. :puke:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:05 PM
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42. Then again, the Silver City went belly up
Vegas' only nonsmoking casino....

I know the Mirage and some others have non-smoking area, a very good idea.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:03 PM
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41. Of course, people fart on planes, too.
It's a sensory feast, I tell ya.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:08 AM
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45. I think you guys are missing the point.
She is the Manager of Chronic Disease Control for the Nevada State Health Division. She probably was under the impression that her credibility would be compromised if she smelled of state cigarette smoke. Since I don't know anything about what her job entails, I can't say if she was being an overwrought dolt or not. Perhaps she is completely justified.

And, we all have known institutions where the smell permeates and remains long after the last smoker has left.

JMHO.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:16 PM
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48. Perhaps she just needs to change her clothes before her meeting
or maybe not go to a BAR to wait for her flight.,. or not worry so much about what people think of HER :)
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