What Democratic Views Do You NOT Agree With?

For me, it is the Death Penalty. I believe that the very most despicable, horrendus criminals do not deserve to even walk on the Earth. Also, for me, it's immigration. We have laws for a reason. They shouldnt be broken and then have immigrants who got here illegally be rewarded with Amnesty. It just doesnt strike me as fair.

How about everyone else?

I strongly support the war in Afghanistan.

But since the fall of the Taliban, I'd have to admit I'm disappointed.

Heh.

I'm pretty sure that most registered Democratic voters did as well.

:sarcasm:

because global warming is not a popular, feel good, issue.

Right now is a great time to be alive. By the time global warming fully catches up to the point where it threatens human life, we'll be long dead. So yeah, why bother.

How the )@%*_*%^(@)&()% is it a "loser"? The Earth is getting warmer. Oil is running out. Even if oil wasn't running out, we still have to buy our gas from some of the worst, most totalitarian regimes on Earth (like Bush's pals, the family Saud) ... The polar caps are melting, storms are getting worse, there's about as much scientific "debate" on the issue as there is on evolution (meaning: NONE among those who know what the hell they're talking about)

No, we need to do a better job of explaining to people that renewable energy is the future and the future means JOBS.

But even if it is a "loser", politically, what the fuck is the point of "winning" if there's not a planet for our grandkids? I might as well just say screw it, and head down to the bar to sink into a bottle of scotch and watch tv.

It's not an official plank. I'm against it in all cases.

I can't think of any major Dem plank with which I disagree, offhand.

it might be a "liberal" view but i'm not sure i would consider it a Democratic view based on the number of Dems who support it.

Who are we to determine issues of who gets to die? Is any person capable of judging life in the jury box anymore than judging life at the point of a gun or a knife?

I don't think any person or group of persons has the right to determine who gets to die. If we were talking about Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin and I was in the jury box, I'd decide against the death penalty for them on both counts because of principle, not because I condone those atrocities.

If you asked me, the only one who deals with death and judgment is God alone.

With respect to illegal immigration, I haven't seen a post here advocating blanket amnesty for illegal immigration. It's a strawman argument as far as I can see.

determine the death penalty is a touch sick.

We need to do away with borders other than security checks.

The democratic party supports both capital punishment and enforcing the border. The two amnesties that were passed were done on a bipartisan basis. (I disagreed with those actions as well)


As for me, I disagree with the party's slavish devotion to big business, including its support of the horrible trade agreements NAFTA, FTAA and CAFTA. I think the party has strayed far to the right of where it should be on labor, regulation, taxation and a host of other issues and is too vulnerable to GOP wedge issue attacks.

I have never been more pissed than when Clinton pushed NAFTA through in November, 1993.

NAFTA has proven to be one colossal failure. They all chose the corporate money over workers in Mexico and the USA.

I loathe the idea that force should ever be used for purely or primarily altruistic reasons. If the interests don't outweight the other reasons, stay home. I don't recall voting for anyone to bring good government to foreigners.

This isn't really a major theme or anything, I jsut see it pop up occasionally.

23 hours locked in a cell is far worse than getting a needle in the arm and going to sleep. but i am tough on crime. i don't believe that sex offenders can be rehabilitated. i say "lock them up and throw away the key".

there are a lot of dems who are for the death penalty. i don't know if you were around when touky williams was put to death, but there were a lot of people who were for it.

are a disease? This is something you need to start to think about.

I believe the human soul is good. But the brain, as an organ, may get sick and diseased.

You're willing to kill the person for a mental disease?

the death penalty.

...than the death penalty itself. I wouldn't confuse that with wanting to abolish it.

from a couple days ago. Interesting.

home of Charles Manson and Scott Peterson, among others...

And yet I remember that old saw "Thou shalt not kill"....so if somebody kills somebody else, it's okay to kill them? This is a logic that I cannot understand.

This is Ms.Tomintib (not Tom himself, who believes in "off with their heads" and is all for capital punishment being delivered in the way it was committed...an eye for an eye...), but I just cannot even begin to understand saying killing is wrong, so we will kill you..

BTW...San Quentin sits on prime real estate and the locals are really interested in moving the killers down the road apiece so that they can develop that space. If you are on death row, you might as well be in Levinworth or some other sorry place without a Bay view...

Until mini god legislators step into the picture. I guess they view themselves as God's helpers on the death squad?

Insane.

of the rest of our jobs, and we need not dirty our hands...now let's go wash 'em before we ask everyone "do you want fries with that?"

Ms. Tomintib (not Tom)

So I'll post what generally left-of-centre ideas I tend to disagree with:

-I believe in unlimited free speech. Now, the biggest disagreement I have on this point is with the right-wing, but progressive/liberals also are guilty, IMO, of limiting speech and expressions. I do not support hate crime laws, I do not support any limit on religious speech unless someone is being directly forced to practice a faith that is not their own (Or a faith at all) and I am against any limit on political speech (Though I do support MANY radical reforms to US elections, limiting campaign ads is not one of them).

That is my main thing and it stirs up a lot of passion with some progressives... but it's one of the few principles I strictly follow. MORE speech, always, not less.

1.Gay Marriage(Although I don't believe in an constanutional admendment banning it.)

2. The death penulty

I say if they cross the border illegally, they are a criminal and should be thrown out.

Why should they be allowed to stay when millions of others are waiting in line outside the country?

I say go back to Mexico, apply for citizenship, and wait in line like everyone else. But if you jump the fence, I have no sympathy.

I am also against this free trade movement being shoved down our throats by the neocons and elitists.

My belief on this seems to be in disagreement with most on DU.

The DU crowd tends toward amnesty for illegal immigrants, though this is not even close to unanimous here. I would argue that most people in the U.S. who vote Democratic are interested in stemming the tide of rampant illegal immigration.

They realize the scam. There are a few holdouts who hear the word "free trade" and think only of the rosy pictures painted by the corporate-owned economists and media pundits. David Ricardo's free trade theory and the actual bills passed by congress are 180 degrees out of phase.

somewhere, someday. Probably already.

Which is why there is no moral justification for the death penalty whatsoever.

if you (right wingers) want to start comparing wasted microclusters of cells that are potential life to wasted military and civilians that were already living... I'M READY.

PS. This is not to start a flame war. I have had to make the hardest decision to abort twice in my past. I am not proud, and yet i would have done it again, because i knew sadly that it was the right thing to do at the time. As i have learned on my brief stint on this planet, abortion, war, and murder are never black and white issues. I am fully willing to be accountable for what abortion is, if it means we can have a more honest discussion about the value of a life.

PSS. Death penalty... also murder. And murder of the worst kind... vengeful and full of hypocrisy.

pretty much anything, but especially the issues you mentioned.

We should not give illegals amnesty. In my opinion, they should all be sent back to their respective countries and made to go through legal channels to come back in. I agree with the death penalty. And I am pro-gun. I do not own a gun, but I believe we all have the right to bear arms.

.....secured "buttoned down" borders and illegal aliens being able to stay in this country.

We've got laws in this country and whether we like those laws or not everyone should have to follow them. If every American can't walk into any emergency room in this country and get immediate medical care like illegal aliens do then the illegal aliens don't deserve it. I'm sorry, I don't care if illegal aliens purposely come to this country to have their kids here. The kids can come back when they are 18, but until then the parents need to go back where they came from.

I know I part company with all Americans on this one and get flamed all the time for it. Oh well!!:shrug:

Party views. There is a significant difference.