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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:27 AM
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Justice Stevens:Trials Illegal under US law and Geneva Convention
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 09:28 AM by cal04
The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti- terror policies.

Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the opinion, which said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and Geneva conventions.

The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a body guard and driver for Osama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo. He faces a single count of conspiring against U.S. citizens from 1996 to November 2001.

Two years ago, the court rejected Bush's claim to have the authority to seize and detain terrorism suspects and indefinitely deny them access to courts or lawyers. In this followup case, the justices focused solely on the issue of trials for some of the men.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/29/D8IHU3H80.html
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:30 AM
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1. I guess we know who dissented.
How much you want to be it was Scalia, Thomas, and the new guy -- Scalito. Roberts sat this one out.

Seriously, it's a problem if we know a particular block of people are ALWAYS going to defend the president...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:32 AM
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4. I agree. They're not judges.
They're enablers.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:33 AM
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5. Kennedy joined the "liberal members"
The vote was split 5-3, with moderate Justice Anthony M. Kennedy joining the court's liberal members in ruling against the Bush administration. Chief Justice John Roberts, named to the court last September by Bush, was sidelined in the case because as an appeals court judge he had backed the government over Hamdan.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13592908/
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:45 AM
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9. Kennedy goes back and forth, which means he's actually thinking
about these issues, not taking a political stand. I appreciate that.

That they're split between "liberal" and "conservative" is really unfortunate.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:31 AM
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2. The Dark Lord and his King...
will have to stop creating Kangaroo courts, at least officially. Getting innocent people will not get justice for the 9/11 victims, and in fact will tarnish that justice. Of course this again, doesn't change the fact they are probably torturing people in other countries. Why the American people didn't wake up sooner, I have no idea, hopefully they will someday soon.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:39 AM
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8. It goes back to the lower court, nothing is settled yet
"Why the American people didn't wake up sooner, I have no idea, hopefully they will someday soon."

The American people haven't woken up, for the most part, and the only evidence that we will have that the lethargy is leaving will be seen in November.

Let's face it, the American people resemble the German people right now, as long as it doesn't effect them, then it isn't real, which makes it easier to look the other way.



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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:31 AM
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3. we are hanging by a thread on the supreme court
thanks to nader the republic is in danger of following


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:34 AM
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6. Never mind. He'll just use a signing statement...
and ignore them. Screw them! Who in the hell do they think they are? He is the King...uh...I mean...the Presidente!
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JohnnyLib Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:34 AM
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7. I'm counting blessings.
The U.S. still has some of the checks and balances we all learned about in civics class, at least for now.

I hope my grandchildren can say the same.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:45 AM
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10. 5-3 is just a number
according to Tony Snow.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:58 AM
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11. um . . . if these trials are "illegal under U.S. law and the Geneva . . .
Conventions," should Bush try to go ahead with them he'd be breaking U.S. law and violating he conventions, no? . . . which would be an impeachable offense, no? . . .

not that Bush cares one whit about what the Supreme Court has to say on the matter, mind you . . .
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