Jenna Bush Moving To Latin America: Why Not Iraq?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/29/AR2006062900070_pf.html

Can someone explain to me why this healthy youngster-daughter of a war-advocating president is not joining the military and going over to Iraq to fight in this war?

WHY ISN'T SHE GETTING ON THE NEXT PLANE TO IRAQ TO FIGHT FOR THIS NOBLE CAUSE?

And why does the disgusting American media never raise this question either?

running cocaine.

Just a guess on my part. I could be wrong.

regular unwashed troops. The thought no doubt turns his stomach. His family is special, they don't sweep floors, clean toilets, pay taxes, or any of the other things the little, normal, COMMON ordinary folk do to get by.

Why, the thought of such a thing is beyond comprehension...

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Jenna: Nothing to declare.

nice digs in Georgetown to return to at night. She's clearly not living off of her earnings. Latin America? Please. She'll be holed up indefinitely at some exclusive resort that caters to every whim of rich, spoiled Americans.

before the mods wisely erased it from the board. Thank you, mods!

Her behavior has finally disgraced the family and she has lost all hope of marrying well in the US.

She's being shipped off in the hope she snags a rich South American husband, preferably one with family money from OIL.

Moneyed sons are meant to manage corporations and foundations. Moneyed daughters are meant to marry well.

that she is moving down there to secure a supply of Bolivian Marching Powder for her daddy?

I give it 6 months before she's found nose-deep in a pile of Mama Coca.

Just because her father is waging a war in Iraq does not mean she is obligated in any way other than your opnion to go and fight.

Can you explain to me why you think that Jenna Bush deserves fewer rights than you, or any other "youngster"? This is an expression I have heard over and over and it never ceases to amaze me how ridiculous it is, by the same logic shouldn't every democratic leaders children be forced to work in social programs for the dis-advantaged?

Do you honestly question why the media is not demanding Jenna Bush be forced into the military? if so, then why isn't Kerry, Dean, Franken, and every other Democrat sending thier children to Darfur?

ILLEGAL invasion. IF it's good enough for Joe Schmoe, it's good enough for Barbara and Jenna. They should have been the FIRST to go. Kerry, Franken, Dean and every other Democrat ARE NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO STARTED AN ILLEGAL WAR. What does Darfur have to do with Iraq, anyway? Stupid analogy. Go here for a more favorable opinion of the Bush Twins...www.freerepublic.com if you don't like DUs take on the spoiled , useless brats.

of why ANY child should be made to suffer the actions of the father.

Spoiled useless brats is one thing, forcing a spoiled useless brat to fight their fathers war is another.

your hatred of bush makes you sound silly.

and their asses should be on the front line in Iraq. I don't care what you think of my hatred of Bush. He has EARNED my hatred 100X over.

I said your hatered makes you sound silly, and it does. And lets cut to the nut, child or adult, YOU CANNOT FORCE ANYBODY TO JOIN THE MILITARY, UNLESS YOU ARE FOR THE DRAFT. Are you? Your statement tells me that you are very willing to SEND people into the military regardless of thier desires, that's called the "draft".

Casey Sheehan was an adult when he JOINED the military, yet I'll bet you think the military "stole" him from Cindy.

Now before you spit your milk and cookies all over yourself I'll tell you why I use this example, if you think joining the military gives you the ability to "choose" where you serve and have any "opnion" about the policy set forth by the military, then I'll revise my statement regarding your opnion from silly to just plain childish. But hey, if the shoe fits.

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when I "invoked" the Sheehan name. You have no idea what being part of the military is about. After you grow up a bit you will see that just because Casey joined before the Iraq war does not give him any right to refuse his military duties, he believed that or he would not have died in Iraq.

I doubt very seriously you even understand what the hell you are talking about regarding the draft, which is what you are advocating. You think, and speak like someone who has a lot of growing up to do.

For the record, I don't support the war, and I don't support the draft, I don't think you would either if you had even the slightest idea of what you are saying. You are so anxious to respond that your response desires the dead soldiers to be tried at the Hauge, I think you have the wrong under-roos on today.

you can't win. some people believe in original sin, and won't be happy until the twins are raped, mutilated, murdered and burned alive to pay for their father's sins. It's very old testament.

I needed that.

Be carefull though, anybody talking to me is assumed to be pro Bush, a freeper and should be sent to Iraq.

where I'm not called a freeper, fascist or nazi is a wasted day. And yet, here I still am, 5 years later, having outlasted most of the people who called me those names in the first place. I despise orthodoxy, and that's not popular.

I like your thoughts, hope to see you again.

Skelington.

Thinking that people should be forced into military service (particularly on an individual level with no general draft) is very unorthodox politics in my book

They campaigned for their father and stood for all he stood for. Therefore, they are responsible also. Please get some common sense.

ILLEGAL war and come home without arms, legs or a mind. Please don't tell me what I know and don't know. OK? I never said I supported a Draft. Here, let me make it simple for you. Pay close attention, OK?

ANY REPUBLICAN WHO SUPPORTS THIS ILLEGAL INVASION AND THIS WARMONGERING CABAL SHOULD ALL HAVE THEIR ASSES IN IRAQ FIGHTING FOR THE DEMOCRACY THEY SO BADLY WISH TO BRING TO IRAQ. Got that?

Do you understand that now?

I said this administration should be tried at the Hague, not the dead soldiers. They thought they were fighting for a noble cause until all the damn LIES came out.

really support this war. They are individual adults, so it's really their individual decision. If either came out supporting the war and calling people traitors for disagreeing with Daddy, then I'd say the same to them as to any freeper, then why aren't you there?

In either came out against it, I'd be supportive of the fact that they differ with Daddy and had the courage to say so. If they are against it but won't say anything because it might rock the boat, that I can sort of understand too. It's not like they have to speak out just because the Supreme Court and Diebold selected Daddy as President.

The Bushit administration acts like Bush is King, but he really isn't, so his relatives have their own lives. They get to vote in private like everyone else too - if they voted, we don't know for sure who they voted for. They might not even want Daddy to be president for all we know.

Granted it is likely they support everything Dumbya says, but unless they come out and say so, they can't really be held to that. They may be just as apolitical as many Americans - many a wealthy spoiled youngster just doesn't really care about these things, and whatever their parents do just doesn't obligate them.

invasion of another sovereign country based on LIES and killed 2500 soldiers, wounded thousands of soldiers and killed 100,000 innocent Iraq men, women and children. Barbara and Jenna support their father's agenda and campaigned for him. They should be in Iraq.

to be valid, then analogies are almost never valid.

She didn't start the war, she shouldn't have to go. Nor should anyone else.

she should be going to Iraq. ANYONE of military age who supports this invasion should be in Iraq.

except the Iraqis of course.

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What you're advocating is conscription, plain and simple. If and when the US introduces conscription then I will fully agree that the President's children should be as ellgiible for it as anyone else.

At present, America has an all volunteer army, thankfully, and as such there is no moral obligation on the Bush twins or anyone else who doesn't want to do so to join it.

Her father, the chickenhawk AWOL president, spends almost every day defending and justifying his needless attack on Iraq. Tens of thousands of people are dying for no good reason. He goes out and makes speeches in front of troops telling them their dead brothers and sisters died for a noble cause, in the defense of America.

If this is such an important mission, and with the troops totally overstretched, why hasn't the president convinced his daughters that they need to be over there in the desert heat with a 50-pound pack on their backs defending America. An action such as this would surely persuade many more Americans to send their sons and daughters. In this way the president could relieve many troops who have been there 3, 4 and 5 times already.

He tells others to send their kids, but his kid is free to go play in South America.

Can you not understand the hypocrisy here? Your loony comparison with "social programs" is ridiculous, and one wonders how many Americans are dying daily working in social programs as leaders advocate our involvement in them.

and your reasons are uneducated, and illinformed.

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as much as the BM I just took. At least that made some sense where it was coming from, and I enjoyed it much more.

You are the one who wants the draft, it's your brothers at Free Republic that agree with that, not me.

Jack Daniels and Wild Turkey? What are you, like 15?

Can you read? I and others here have said, in plain English, that anyone who is of military enlistment age and supports this president and/or his policy of continuing to keep troops in Iraq SHOULD GO TO IRAQ AND FIGHT OR SHUT THE F**K UP.

Can you, like, understand that?

Daddy is advocating and sending OTHER PEOPLE's children to be killed in Iraq and she supports Daddy, that's why. And every Congressperson who condones this war and supports sending the military over there (some several times) should have to risk their own family, too. Then you'd see how fast our foreign policy would change.

It is entirely different than Democrats advocating social programs for the disadvantaged. They are not forcing other people to give up their lives or to risk anything for their beliefs. Bush demands the people he forces to go to Iraq to risk and lose everything including their lives.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

I mostly lurk here, but this argument always makes me angry, mostly because I know that dems who claim "her Daddy makes OUR kids go, why not his own?" are ignoring two important points. One, we have no draft. Two, if this were a military action under a Dem president and the freepers were screaming the same thing, we'd be all over them.

fighting for what they believe in. A Democratic President would never have started this illegal invasion. NEVER.

We don't need a draft if everyone, women too, between the ages of 21-42 who voted for Bush would enlist. The enlistment age has recently had to be raised to age 42. So march on down you Bush voters. You wanted this war, so put up or shut up. I'll be glad to drive you down to the nearest enlistment office. Bunch of chicken-hawks like your heroes!

NEVER supported the illegal invasion. I agree with your post. Skelinton needs to be in Iraq too.:) Isn't it funny how freepers travel in pack? Why is that, I wonder?;)

I supported the war. I said your drafting ideas were silly, and now... delusional.

Why are you calling me a freeper? You are the one who is in support of a draft, but only for those YOU think should be there.

I assume that you can't even remotley think that there are pro-war parrents, with anti-war kids, there are more perrents and kids than just the Bushes but your idea is to send all the kids of pro war parrents. By your rationale, the kids opnion don't matter, just the parrents actions. Look at your reflection a little longer, the only Freeper ideas here are yours.

:eyes: Where did I ever say I supported a draft? I have a son and there is no way in hell I support a Draft and never will and he will NEVER fight an illegal war based on LIES. I said any freakin' Repuke who supports this war should have their asses in Iraq fighting it...that includes yours. This has NOTHING to do with a Draft and has everything to do with HYPOCRISY. It's hypocritical to expect LIBERALS or poor people to send THEIR children to fight these illegal invasions while the repukes and rich people keep their little Jennas and Barbaras at home safe and sound. Besides that, little Jenna and Barbara support their daddy's illegal invasion and if so, should be over their fighting for what they believe in. Here: run off a copy for yourself and some of your war supporting friends. Pass it around!

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/enlistment.pdf

as some people have suggested, all one has to do is get his/her ass over there and do SOMETHING to help the Iraqi people

signing up to KILL them is, I'd say, the WORST thing one could do

paint a school.

drill a well.

grill a falafel (if Sadr's militia doesn't KILL YOU for doing so)

empty bed pans at a clinic

just GO over their and support in PERSON the war you support from your dangerous position behind your keyboard

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Of course I didn't mean you. I was agreeing with you and adding that these Bushies can always enlist and put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

As for pro-war parents making anti-war kids go to Iraq that Skelinton is now saying I said- no, I never said that. Jenna obviously is a pro-war kid since she openly campaigned for her old man, so I consider her a pro-war kid and she should go. She helped get Bush elected, didn't she.

you are silly too.

There now I responded to you.

According to the way message boards work, your #24 was responding to my post #20, but whatever you say.

why bother?

They all have a lot of explaining to do for their IWR vote. IMCPO, it's unforgivable. I knew the cabal was lying, why didn't they?

Therefore, they must support his war.

I get so angry whenever I see that son-of-a-bitch "president" on TV saying "more sacrifice is needed" as if he's risking anything.

should Chelsea move to Mexico? Because she was on-board for him. You honestly believe in what you say in this post?

EVER?

good one!

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exiles.

I have nothing personal against Jenna, regarding her at best as uninteresting. But the thought of the escape of some of the Romanovs and some the Pavlevis from their country makes me feel good about this tale. Maybe she knows something we don't and wants to be out of the country.

We have no idea what Jenna thinks, or who she is. She may not be fond of her father for all we know. Many children don't feel sanguine about their parents. Some of them post here. Given the general nature of this family, it's probably all the better, but we don't really know.

demise?

1. she wants to be closer to the coke.
2. she hates her parents and is being adopted by Hugo Chavez.

being out there. I find it funny how USA military is not for the Elite... yet Prince Harry and his troupe are scheduled for Iraq this month.

from her family. And who can blame her.

on edit: Why not Iraq? Maybe she doesn't believe in this war any more than most of the rest of the country.

Since there is no draft, there is no way she -- or anyone else -- can be compelled to join up.

I've never understood the hate-Jenna thing. George Bush and George Bush alone will burn in hell for his sins. And I don't think anyone should blame her for not killing her parents while they were asleep.

If Jenna ever becomes a flaming right-wing asshole, than have at her, by all means. But the kids are putting as much distance between themselves and their dear old Dad; that ought to tell you something.

--p!

If you supported him and voted for him in 2004 knowing what he had already done and would continue to do, then you have responsibility for everything since 2004, too. 2000 was different. There was no way to know what he was capable of in 200, but in 2004 there was. Jenna gets no excuse.

--p!

right? I don't know what sort of relationship you had with your father, but personally, I wouldn't publically speak against mine unless I had an insanely good reason to. My family is important to me, and if I had to do some desultory, half-hearted campaigning for my father, I would, even if I didn't agree with everything he does or says.

were you there?

did you read the accounts of her 'desultory' manner?

did you see the story about her partying with college students on the campaign stops she made on her own?

was she partying in a desultory manner

most people agree that her campaigning for her father was VERY heartfelt, energetic, and enthusiastic; anything but desultory

why do you defend her so avidly? or is it just desultory?

between staying in the background and being quiet or campaigning all over the place for him, which is the twins did. In that case it is fair to say they were backing his policies. If he were my father (who I was extremely close to and loved very much, btw) I would tell him I couldn't publically support him and campaign for him because I disagreed with what he was doing (it's called having principles), but I would not do anything in public to hurt him personally. The twins could always have just 'been busy with other things' and not devote months and months to joining the campaign if they didn't agree with him.

What is it the Repugs always say- take personal responsibility and words have consequences.

As unpopular as her dad is with the rest of the world I'd think she'd be a target for kidnapping or murder. She better not ditch her Secret Service detail like she did in the states especially to go partying in bars.

Guess it depends on what area of Latin America she's going to.

I would be willing to bet there is a shortage of teachers in Iraq. What, with all the schools we're constructing and shit.

Why not teach at PS 1 in Falluja?

the latter may or may not be Jenna. There are those who say it is.

is she putting on a, a, bikini? my stars. whatever has happened to the children of our country that they would wear a swimming suit at the Beach? someone tar and feather her.

the second one is so obviosuly staged as to be insulting.

there are those who think it's not such good judgment for the daughter of the president to pull her pants down in a public place

there are those who are living on a throne of self-righteous indignation

there are those who say they don't care

Was it good judgment for the daughter of a presidential nominee to wear a dress that turned out to be fairly see-through in the glare of photographers' flashbulbs? The right wing thought not and I thought they were full of crap.

I think worrying about what Jenna wears or does is equally stupid.

a teacher, or had quotes from people who refused to say just what her job was.

She was a TEACHING ASSISTANT: a teacher's AIDE, qualification for which doesn't even include a college degree, much less a teaching certificate.

So, are the PR hacks at the WH trying to fudge the difference between Jenna's being a teacher and teacher's assistant? Are they trying to elevate her status in the public eye? I have nothing against teacher's aides, believe me, they are an INVALUABLE asset in most educational settings, and from personal experience I know that several have done more of the teaching than the classroom teachers themselves.

that said, the school at which she's been 'teaching' has NEVER said that she was a teacher, actually. the last time Linda Moore, executive director of Elsie Whitlow Stokes Community Freedom Public Charter School, was asked if Jenna was a TEACHER, she had THIS to say:

"Jenna Bush is not employed as a teacher at the school," she bluntly informed us Friday. Asked whether Bush was working as an assistant teacher, Moore said: "I can't confirm that."

Hmm. When pressed, Moore suggested we school ourselves on the No Child Left Behind law, noting it has "some very strict requirements about who can be hired and what their credentials have to be, and they do apply to charter schools." Under the law, a highly qualified teacher has to hold a bachelor's degree in the subject or pass an equivalency test. Jenna has a bachelor's in
education from the University of Texas at Austin.''

.....

The White House would not release specifics and only confirmed that the 22-year-old would teach at a public school in the District.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13486-2005Jan16.html

the article also said that it had "learned" (no official announcement from the WH) that she was going to be a teacher at the school, but after "rumblings," they got the above quote from Moore.

So. If they allowed the impression (some would say LIED...the article said the WH confirmed she'd "teach at a public school") to get out that she Jenna was a teacher then, "sharing a classroom" with a teacher, but hadn't the qualifications to actually teach, had things changed over the summer? Did she take an equivalency test, acquire the requisite qualifications to actually TEACH at the same school last year, or was she, again, a teacher's assistant?

I couldn't find ONE story that dealt with her position last year, only ones referring to the 'controversy' surrounding her employment in 2005, spring.

Tempest in a teapot, you say? Sure, but it's just another example of the inability of the WH to be straight about even the SIMPLEST of matters. Are they embarrassed that their daughter, who apparently HAS a teaching degree from Texas, can't even get a job in D fricking C? Is being a mere teacher's aide too humiliating for them to admit? If she HAD been a teacher there, I'd think they'd have trumpeted the fact, and it would have been easily accessible.

But look let's be real... A kidnapped first daugher is the last thing the country needs.

But there was a photo of her floating around the 'Net which might undermine her neo-schoolmarm image...

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rocknation

And her mother.

And father.

And grandparents.

And all them stupid cousins.

Hell, take the whole damn family.