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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:59 PM
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Clinton's Peace & Prosperity vs Bush's War & Recession
Clinton's Peace & Prosper ty vs Bush's War & Recession

Bill Clinton will go down in history as one of the best presidents for his achievements.
GW Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever.
I am only talking about achievements.

Clinton never sent a man into battle that didn't come back alive.
Bush has sacrificed over 2,000 troops in his oil grab.

Clinton balanced the budget with a record surplus.
Bush created the worst budget shortfall ever.

Clinton actually cared when disaster struck our citizens.
Bush continued to play golf 5 full days after Katrina hit.

The stock market set all time records during Clinton's reign.
Bush gave us the worst stock market crash since 1929.

Clinton actually paid attention to presidential daily briefings.
Bush ignored the one that might have prevented 9-11.

Clinton followed the Geneva Convention.
Bush continues to torture and create and endless number of future terrorists.

Clinton gave us real welfare reform.
Bush gave the ultra wealthy tax cuts without end, and continued cuts in Medicare and Medicaid.

Clinton always protected Social Security.
Bush worked to eliminate it with a privatization plan.

Under Clinton's watch, over 20 million new jobs were created.
Bush has the worst new job creation records ever.

Clinton saved millions of lives in Kosovo without losing a single American life.
Bush invaded Iraq which led to the needless death of thousands of innocent people.

Clinton would admit it when he made mistakes.
Bush has never admitted to making even one.

Clinton had one success after another.
Bush has had nothing but failures.

One of the best presidents was replaced by arguably the worst of all time.

I have not even talked about how Bush fabricates the news, punishes those who would criticize his foolish war, and illegally spies on Americans.

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:02 PM
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1. But the neocons don't believe
in liberty or prosperity for the masses. Things right now are just the way they like 'em.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:04 PM
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2. Clinton saved millions of lives in Kosovo
I don't think so. We were as misled on Kosovo as we were on Iraq. But hey, we got a thousand acre military base out of it.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:10 PM
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3. Maybe not millions, but his intervention did stop the ethnic cleansing
and likely saved tens of thousands.

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Jayhawk Lib Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:10 PM
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4. Let him proceed
Lets let Bush proceed with what he is doing. He is the best thing that us Dems have going for us....He is turning the red state of Kansas blue. I never thought that would ever happen but sure enough, Kansas is turning blue....
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:13 PM
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5. clinton could have bombed osama. when he found out there
was a children's playground there, he halted the bombing. we lost osama, but clinton cared about the innocents. bush doesn't
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:07 PM
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6. Why did I forget something like that
When the repukes blow about how Clinton could have captured bin Laden.
I will have to try to remember that for the next debate with a stupid repuke.
Thanks
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:11 PM
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7. Another Point On That
When they blew up that pharma plant in Sudan, the subsimians screamed "It was just an aspirin factory!" Two problems that nobody brings up:
1) Almost any chemical facility can be used to make nearly any chemical. Sealed systems like those in a pharma plant would be designed for zero entry or exit, so they could be used to make dangerous weapons grade chemicals.
2) Later released to the public (in 2001, i think) were documents indicating that this plant MAY have been used as a money funnel for funds transfer and cash development for al Qaeda. I'd have to search Lexis/Nexis for that at the library to find the source.

But, this means that the attack on that plant was a dual purpose one. Take out one of their funding mechanisms and remove the potential use as a weapons plant.

So, he DID do something about terrorism. The radical right just won't admit it.
The Professor
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:12 PM
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8. yet another backhanded compliment and a story I never heard of.
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 02:13 PM by robbedvoter
Kinda like the Irishman Union leader (race card). I see a pattern.
"We lost Osama?"


New offer on Bin Laden
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,575593,00.html
Minister makes secret trip to offer trial in third country
Rory McCarthy in Islamabad
Wednesday October 17, 2001
The Guardian
A senior Taliban minister has offered a last-minute deal to hand over Osama bin Laden during a secret visit to Islamabad, senior sources in Pakistan told the Guardian last night.
For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a halt to the bombing, a source close to Pakistan's military leadership said.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:33 PM
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9. you've got a chip on your shoulder. you read things into my
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 02:54 PM by catmother
statements that fit your thinking. what's your problem?

on edit: because you never heard of it, it didn't happen?

also why would i have a problem with an irishman when my heritage is irish/german?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:39 PM
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10. We lost Osama - but we did so compassionately. yeay, Clinton!
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 05:40 PM by robbedvoter
Almost as good as Wes Clark praising W for quitting drinking....
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:14 PM
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11. clinton was a good president and what's wrong with praising
someone who stops drinking whether it's bush or anyone else? addictions are difficult to overcome. i was certainly happy for all the praise i got when i stopped smoking. it was probably the hardest thing i've ever done.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 08:19 PM
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15. Back handed compliment = attack in disguise. Loved it when Clark
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 08:23 PM by robbedvoter
did it to W , I am amazed of your precision when you use it against unions, blacks, Clinton. I have yet to see that back hand of yours swing the other way.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 08:50 PM
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16. what the f---- are you talking about. you make no sense. you
read things the way you want to. very paranoid. i've seen some of your other posts. you like getting into nasty debates with people. i'm sorry, my dear, i'm going to have to put you back on IGNORE. Bad girl.

you might want to think about getting some psychotherapy.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:17 PM
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12. Exactly right! In his recent interview with Jim Lehrer...
Idiot Son admitted he didn't consider the human cost of war; it was not a factor for him.

I talked about this on my blog:

http://progressiveminds.bloghi.com/2005/12/27/george-bush-admits-he-never-focused-on-human-cost-of-war.html
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:23 PM
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13. Peak oil. What if Kerry was prez? Worse, Clinton was an enabler.
He IS known for being "the best president the republicans ever had", and for good reasons. Including:

NAFTA
DOMA
DMCA
55mph rescinding (Nixon of all people installed it; to help cut oil/gas usage...)
1996 telecom act (which helped put our media in our place)
1995 welfare 'reform'
Monica (public office, anything becomes a target... politicians should know this by now.)

Sorry, I can't play games or use pithy scenarios. That's bill o'reilly and michael moore stuff. Nothing is so two-dimensional.

Not that I am discounting Bush's failures, of course, he's redefined 'failure'... and there are some points re: Clinton I'd agree with too.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:46 PM
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14. In upside-down GOPland
Peace and prosperity are looked down upon and happiness is measured by how many people get killed
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