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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 03:57 PM
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about that Aug.6 2001 PDB... did any other DU-er see these
words. Titled "Osama determined to strike inside the USA". On page 2 the last half of that this page was written, "weeks many many dead,very very big uproar possibly using hijacked commercial jets as suicide weapons to be crashed into skyscrapers in NYC,Chicago and DC". During the 911 hearings that PDB was briefly on camera hence my being able to read
what's now disappeared from sight. I can understand why the Bush Crime Family had that paragraph removed from viewers eyes,its inflammatory.
Also missing,on the day Tenet testified publicly he was asked,"did you meet with the prez during Aug."Tenet replied,"no,bush was in Crawford and I was in Maryland. Later that afternoon both Tenet and Tom Kean stepped up to the camera and Kean says,"mr.Tenet would like to amend his testimony to include meeting the prez on Aug 18 2001 (mossouari arrested)
Aug 25 2001 (at Crawford) and Aug 31 2001 (in DC)." What did they discuss? If not imminent
plans to strike America then both are derelict in their duty.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:00 PM
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1. Do you have a link?
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:03 PM
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2. no link available...it was briefly flashed on my tv I'm sorry
my VCR wasn't running. Who knew they would "pull the last paragraph."
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:04 PM
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3. I never saw the text of that PDB. Was that EVER shown or posted
anywhere?

I watched all those hearings, and I remenber the day Ben Veniste asked Condi if she remembered the title of that PDB. I know I freaked out over that response! But I know they didn't show the text.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:08 PM
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6. but they did show the text...thats what the last paragraph
said. Weeks many many dead very very big uproar. Not my words but what was written in that
PDB. Bush needs to make public the entire 2 pages not the 1 1/2 pages on the internet. Its the reason I'm asking if any other DU-ers saw that text.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:15 PM
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9. I think I remember someone on DU mentioning it
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 04:15 PM by bananas
Have you mentioned this before on DU?
If not, there is someone else who saw it.
(edit: assuming I am remembering correctly)
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:26 PM
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20. I mentioned this 2 weeks ago.... thank you nt
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:05 PM
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4. Are You Saying The Original PDB Had Handwritten Notes On It....
beyond just the typed copy we were shown? How did you see this again? On TV? Did they take that close-up of a shot?

If what you saw is right - this damn's them more so than ever.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:11 PM
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7. thank you global... it wasn't handwritten it was typed text
the last paragrapg is missing. Damn, I sure wish I had the VCR on. I know what I read,do I
believe the Bush Crime Family or my lying eyes? Its very damning that PDB.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:06 PM
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5. if you find video online like at CSPAN, you could isolate that frame...
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:14 PM
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8. Wishful thinking....
but unless the Crime Family is pressured into releasing that document in its entirety we'll
never know the full extent of the crime..
Also pulled from tv Tenet amending his testimony to include meetings with bush on those dates I listed above. Notice we never saw that clip again either !!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:19 PM
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12. This is on the CNN site.
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 04:22 PM by napi21
http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf

There are 2 pages, but nothing like you mentioned, and very little redacted info in the whole thing.

The same thing is on FindLaw.

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/terrorism/80601pdb.html
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:16 PM
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10. Was it on an overhead projector?
Something like that?

Can we go back and get the video?

I've heard this before (probably from you). I tend to believe it. Can we get to the bottom of this?
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:32 PM
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13. A news camera pointed the lens at that document
for about 30 seconds. I read that last paragraph its burnt into my brain. Hell I wouldn't chose those words myself. I've seen the pdb thats on the internet and its missing the last 2 paragraphs, as well as George Tenet amending his sworn testimony "he didn't meet with bush during Aug 2001". We never saw that clip again. The Crime family decides what we see and hear. Shame on all those M-U-R-D-E-R-E-R-S in the Whitehouse..
its why I asked. I was hoping some other DU-er caught that pdb..
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:58 PM
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16. Apparently you are the only person in the whole world who saw it
Strange
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:19 PM
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19. its why I/m asking Stephanie...
I was hoping some other DU-er caught that last paragraph. The most important lines of the entire PDB. I did see it and read it quickly. I cant make this stuff up not using those words,weeks many many dead....I'd be more specific if I were to make stuff up..
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:18 PM
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11. never mind eom...
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 04:25 PM by madeline_con
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:49 PM
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14. I definitely saw it, in pdf, found text but links seem to be dying...
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 05:00 PM by BelgianMadCow
let me look with you.

Edit :

found text here :
http://ctstudies.com/Document/PDB_Aug_2001.html

There's also a non-working, Mozilla-crashing link to the pdf there.

It was released to the media in 2004 after being asked for for a loong time.

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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:56 PM
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15. wow mad cow... I sure hope you can find something..
I distinctly remember those words because they were the point of the entire PDB.. Bush requested a report into activity by arabs wanting to learn to fly commercial jets I believe
it was the "Phoenix Flight memo's" that caused bush to order a report. It culminated with the Aug 6 2001 PDB from the CIA.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:04 PM
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17. I did & edited post #14. Very easy to find :-)
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:14 PM
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18. Its not there madcow...nice try though
what I saw was,"weeks many many dead,very very big uproar,possibly using hijacked commercial jets as suicidal weapons to be crashed into skyscrapers in NYC,Chicago and DC.

Damn, I sure wished I had the VCR going..
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:44 PM
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21. Sorry for not being precise
Don't know what I was thinking. Well, I was thinking this was an exercise to demonstrate how easy to find the PDB is. I must read more carefully.

Sorry again to get your hopes up.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:53 PM
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22. Didn't see it, but there is controversy over the true length of the PDB.
Do you remember what channel you saw this on? Date and time? It might be possible to track it down with that info.

Here's a thread I saved from last year that addresses the controversy over the true length of the PDB. Perhaps you saw one of the missing pages:

8/6/01 PDB -- Was It Really *11* Pages??
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1388317
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:50 PM
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23. Thanks robert,,, that was some thread you fished out
glad you posted that. I remember seeing that pdb the same day it was made public in April 2004. I believe I saw it on MSNBC or CNN I had expected to see a replay showing what I written here but NO someone must have ordered that paragraph removed from public viewing,its too damaging to the Bush Crime Family.Paul Thompson's
timeline suggested 11 pages and frankly I believe that.
If you look over what is public you don't see what should be classified material. The text is historical bullshit that needn't be classified but the missing page(s) would certainly be classified. Remember back in May 2002 (May15) the NY Post ran a front page story,911 shocker,in 3 inch type "BUSH KNEW" prez was warned of terror attacks before they happened. If that historical bullshit was all it said,why didn't they (crime family) release it then? my take,it was 11 pages,it did say,weeks many many dead very very big uproar,possibly using hijacked commercial jets as suicidal weapons to be crashed into skyscrapers in NYC Chicago and DC. H'm keep in mind those are not my words they are what was printed on that document..
robertpaulsen you are a good investigator. I like your style..

keep in touch on this...
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