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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:19 AM
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December 29, 1890, Massacre at Wounded Knee:
When the smoke cleared and the shooting stopped, approximately 300 Sioux were dead, Big Foot among them. Twenty-five soldiers lost their lives. As the remaining troopers began the grim task of removing the dead, a blizzard swept in from the North. A few days later they returned to complete the job. Scattered fighting continued, but the massacre at Wounded Knee effectively squelched the Ghost Dance movement and ended the Indian Wars.

Mission accomplished.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:23 AM
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1. Suppress Native Americans at all costs
Doesn't matter if women and children, the old and sick, the defenseless were mowed down. We had "Manifest Destiny" on our side--and for 80 years, not only the Ghost Dance but ALL Native American spirituality and ceremony was suppressed and made illegal. I guess the government was afraid a sweatlodge ceremony would be a place where them "Injuns" would plot to get back the land that was stolen from them instead of becoming nice little docile people without hope.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:25 AM
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2. .
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 11:26 AM by bigtree
;(
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:49 AM
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3. Cheyenne Ghost Dance chant:
The white man's god
has forsaken him

Let us go
and look for our Mother

(We shall live again!)

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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:01 PM
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4. Yes, well, and at that time of year there just weren't any flowers to
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 12:02 PM by neweurope
be found.

Good that you reminded us of that.




20 National Medals of Honor were given for this slaughter of over 200 children and women along with over 100 unarmed men




-----------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:54 PM
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8. SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!!!
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:27 PM
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16. Sweet Jesus!!!!
I have never seen these pictures before now, and the little bit of Indian Heritage I have is SCCRRRREEEEEEAAMINGGGGGGGGG! How low is our "humanity"? I am so ashamed to call myself a "white woman" right now!!!! I'm almost ashamed to be called an "American"? Those slaughtered were the ONLY TRUE AMERICANS! Thank you,(I think) for this reminder of our inhumanity.:cry: :mad:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:11 PM
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5. "Remember who you are."
That's what Grandmother would say, with those big, dark eyes and that sweet wrinkled face. "Remember who you are..."
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:13 PM
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6. Another post
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:52 PM
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7. Voted, kicked.
(Mine was the fifth vote.)
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:01 PM
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9. Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee
by Buffy Sainte Marie

INTRO:
Indian legislation on the desk of a do-right Congressman
Now, he don't know much about the issue
so he picks up the phone and he asks advice from the
Senator out in Indian country
A darling of the energy companies who are
ripping off what’s left of the reservations. Huh.

~~~

I learned a safety rule
I don’t know who to thank
Don't stand between the reservation
and the corporate bank
They send in federal tanks
It isn’t nice but it’s reality

(chorus:)
Bury my heart at Wounded Knee
Deep in the Earth
Cover me with pretty lies
bury my heart at Wounded Knee. Huh.

They got these energy companies that want the land
and they’ve got churches by the dozen
who want to guide our hands
and sign Mother Earth over to pollution, war and greed
Get rich... get rich quick.

chorus...
We got the federal marshals
We got the covert spies
We got the liars by the fire
We got the FBIs
They lie in court and get nailed
and still Peltier goes off to jail

chorus...
My girlfriend Annie Mae talked about uranium
Her head was filled with bullets and her body dumped
The FBI cut off her hands and told us she’d died of exposure
Loo loo loo loo loo

chorus...
We had the Goldrush Wars
Aw, didn’t we learn to crawl and still our history gets
written in a liar’s scrawl
They tell ‘ya "Honey, you can still be an Indian
d-d-down at the ‘Y’
on Saturday nights"

Bury my heart at Wounded Knee
Deep in the Earth
Cover me with pretty lies
Bury my heart at Wounded Knee. Huh!



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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 03:31 PM
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11. I used to listen to Buffy all the time
More years ago than I care to think about.



Keith’s Barbeque Central

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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:32 PM
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10. US troop casualties in Iraq: 2,172 (+); in 80 years of Indian Wars: 1,001
US troop casualties in Iraq have long since doubled the number of US troop deaths during the bloody 80-year Indian Wars and will soon surpass the number of US troop deaths from the War of 1812. Can we stop this war before we pass the US troop death totals from the American Revolution which the War in Iraq is well on pace to eclipse if we do not draw back from the brink of insanity?

BLOODY AMERICAN WARS (in theater US troop deaths)

American Revolution (1775–1783): 4,435

War of 1812 (1812–1815): 2,260

War in Iraq (2003–present): 2,172 (+)

Mexican War (1846–1848): 1,733

Indian Wars (1817–1898): 1,001

Spanish-American War (1898–1902): 385

War in Afghanistan (2001–present): 252 (+)

Gulf War (1990–1991): 147

Somalia (1992-1993): 29

Yugoslavia/Kosovo (1992–2001): 11
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 03:59 PM
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12. But what about the Iraqis and the Indigenous Peoples?
Any numbers there? How many millions?

Rec'd
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:10 PM
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15. No numbers on those we kill; we only count our own lost in the fight.
At least with the Indian Wars, there was no false pretense that we were killing them in order to liberate them and no one ever pretended that the natives out West would be greeting us with flowers.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:34 PM
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18. You left out the CIVIL WAR !!!
If I'm not mistaken, the total killed would outpass all of these wars combined!! Sorry to play "devils advocate" But am I not correct?
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:38 PM
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19. P.S.
What is your point? You also left out the troops killed in WW1 and WW2 !!????????
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:56 PM
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21. The Civil War, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, and Korea all had higher troop deaths,
but how does that discount the number of US soldiers who died in an Iraq war built on lies and manipulated intelligence?

If I show you statistics that Diabetes is on the rise and has surpassed pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Cirrhosis, and Nephrosis as a leading cause of death and that the Diebetes death rate is approaching the death rate for emphysema and other chronic respiratory diseases, do you need to know the cancer and heart disease death rates in order to appreciate that Diabetes is a growing health concern?

The number of US troops involved in the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, and Korea were vastly greater than the number of troops currently involved in Iraq, and the US troop casualties in those wars were, accordingly, much greater. That isn't really news to you, is it?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:01 PM
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13. "I left my heart at Wounded Knee"
:(
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:07 PM
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14. Big Foot?
I hadn't heard of a Chief called Big Foot
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:29 PM
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17. That's correct
I have several books about the Indian Wars:



here he is dead, frozen in the snow.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:41 PM
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20. Wounded Knee did not end the Indian Wars
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 04:44 PM by SpiralHawk
They continue against indigenous peoples of the Earth all over the planet, but are now more ofter prosecuted by corporations than by governments. Much goes on still in the USA, witness the stories of Ruby Valley and Big Mountain -- ongoing to this day, and massive, systematic Republican rip-off of the vast Indian Trust Funds -- a robbery on a planetary scale even for the NeoCon culture of corruption.

I sometimes regard the ongoing wars against the indigenous people of our earth as akin to the ongoing war against women and the feminine polarity -- as the totally out-of-balance YANG forces thrash about in rage and insanity, attempting to destroy or block that which they innerly hunger for most but for shame cannot embrace as it was meant to be and as will be seen when the Hoop is Whole once more in the moving cycles in which we weave our lives.

"We are the keepers of the earth, and in this hour much is at stake." - Lincoln Gieger


"Many elders will have necessary teachings to share in the time of the Seventh Fire, but many will remain silent because no one will ask them anything." - Seven Fires, Seven Prophets
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:59 PM
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22. kick
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