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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 06:59 PM
Original message
HELP!!!
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 07:23 PM by OneAngryDemocrat
A Freeper has singled me out on his Nazi website, http://hard-talk.com because of my own, anti-war website, www.shockedandawful.com.

This Nazi has posted all of my personal info, including my unlisted phone number, in direct violation of the website's privacy statement!!!

Do I have legal recourse?!?!?!

This swine is actually in violation of his own Privacy statement!!!

Hard-Talk Privacy Policy
The owners of Hard-Talk guarantee that we will never, under any circumstances, sell, trade or make public your personal information, unless you designate otherwise. All personal information you provide will remain confidential. In addition, you always will have the option to edit the information provided to us or to have your personal information removed from our records.


http://hard-talk.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=3676079532&f=252103536&m=4061056321
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:02 PM
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1. i'd contact the site admins ASAP n/t
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:02 PM
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2. Time to contact the police. Make sure you get screenshots. nt
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:09 PM
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5. I've taken some screenshots in case you don't. n/t
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:48 PM
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33. Thanx.
I have, too. However, please hold on to those. My e-mail addy is OneAngryDemocrat@aol.com, which you can access at my website, www.shockedandawful.com

A lawyer has informed me that his refusal to remove my personal info unless I reveal even more personal info (my DD 214) is tantmount to blackmail.

I hope this fellow has some money.

Thanx!!!
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:02 PM
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3. If you have money, sue them.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:06 PM
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4. Nice site...
I'll go back periodically.

Sorry, can't help you on the legal stuff, I imagine if you start getting death threats and ticking mail you'd have a law suit.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:10 PM
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6. I would call the save screen shots, call the cops and contact
your lawyer!
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:10 PM
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7. I think you have a lawsuit, but I am no lawyer...
Typical Dumbfuckistanian crap... giving away private information. How did he get your info?
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:17 PM
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14. OneAngryDemocrat says...
I signed up for his free speech forum!!!
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:11 PM
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8. I found the link you are talking about.
I didn't find any personal info on the thread.

Maybe I missed it, but considering the number of people who visit that site, I think you just gave him more hits today than he had in the last six months.

Contact the site administrator asap anyway
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:13 PM
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11. I saw it. n/t
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 07:43 PM by Lori Price CLG
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:21 PM
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19. The formatting is being messed in my browser; had to scroll waaay down...
...but I have screenies showing information that shouldn't be shown.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:33 PM
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26. It is there, not sure how you missed it.
http://hard-talk.com


Mid way down the page it is talking about DU and skinner.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:12 PM
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9. This is an invitation for someone to go after you
I would be calling the police. Now. I love how some chickenhawks claim that you must have not been a good Marine :eyes: These people are pathetic.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:13 PM
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10. Calling the local cops won't do you any good
Considering the culprits are probably in another state. You need to call the FBI and ask for their internet crimes division.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:14 PM
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12. I like your website
keep up the good work
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:15 PM
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13. Call him, here is some of his info...
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 07:49 PM by Ioo
Registrant:
SweeXXX, LaXXy

XXXXXX West Alice Ave
Glendale, AZ 85302
US

Domain Name: HARD-TALK.COM

Administrative Contact :
SweeXXX, LaXXy
XXXXX@ziplip.com
XXXXXX West Alice Ave
Glendale, AZ 85302
US
Phone: XXX-X63-9027

Technical Contact :
Network Solutions, LLC.
customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
US
Phone: 1-888-642-9675
Fax: 571-434-4620

Record expires on 17-Feb-2006
Record created on 17-Feb-2003
Database last updated on 09-Jul-2004

Got it from his WHOIS on his URL... The Info he posts under matches

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jhtml

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:45 PM
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28. Ioo, posting that is in violation of DU rules.
Not to mention, it's exactly what the OP started this thread about.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:47 PM
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29. I am showing that is is part of the public domain...
This is what it is, I did the same simple query that he did... that is all
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:20 PM
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35. I know that, and it is SPECIFICALLY prohibited here.
Cut-n-paste from the DU posting guidelines:

" Do not post personal information about any other person,
even if that information is publicly available."
(my emphasis)
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:17 PM
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15. Your legal remedies likely vary from state to state.
What's your state and the state of the website where your information was exposed?
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. I am in Illinois
Do I have recourse?
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:20 PM
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18. Is this an FCC matter?
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. You may want to contact Illinois' Citizen Advocacy Center. Here's a link
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:17 PM
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16. Sorry Dude, it is very PUBLIC info.... I think you have no case...
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 07:21 PM by Ioo
Anyone can do a WHO IS

This info YOU posted when you reg the URL. I payed money to have it hidden.
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:22 PM
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21. OneAngryDemocrat says...
Networksolutions.com says, quite clearly,

The data in this whois database is provided to you for information
purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or
related to a domain name registration record. We make this information
available "as is", and do not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a
whois query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful
purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to:
(1) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that stress or
load this whois database system providing you this information; or
(2) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail,
electronic mail, or by telephone. The compilation, repackaging,
dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited without
prior written consent from us. The registrar of record is
PublicDomainRegistry. We reserve the right to modify
these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide
by these terms.


I don't believe he used his query response in a legal manner.

HELP!!!!
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:28 PM
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24. I am telling you my friend...
He is not using it for commercial reasons.... he is not compiling it...

The second issue is that is Network Solutions Terms, posting public info is not illeagal in most states.

I am tell you as a friend and a person who has had an issue this a bout a year ago, this info is PUBLIC information, and the person that put it out was you. You can make it private at the time you made the URL...

I am tell you dude, it is info in the PUBLIC DOMAIN....

I really wish I had better news...
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:39 PM
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27. The public dissemination of public domain information is not always legal.
In many jurisdictions, one who gives publicity to a matter concerning the private life of another is subject to liability to the other for invasion of his privacy, if the matter publicized is of a kind that would be highly offensive to a reasonable person, and is not of legitimate concern to the public. The fact that this information is true or that the information could have been uncovered by other means is not necessarily a defense. For example, in many jurisdictions, a store where you owe an unpaid debt has unlawfully invaded your reasonable right to privacy by publicly posting that information for all to read.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:52 PM
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30. When YOU place it in the Public Domain...
When you reg a website the info is there.

Here is mine
http://www.enom.com/domains/whois.asp?DomainName=BushsAmerica.com&submit.x=0&submit.y=0

I used a service to hide it a little...

Your example is very diffrent, because when you write a check, you do not post that in a PUBLIC space...
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:26 AM
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36. I'm not debating what public policy should be. I'm telling what the law is
If you and your mistress are not public figures, and if you go to a public hotel and you are photographed together leaving the hotel, publishing that photograph is not always legal. I'm not saying that this should be punishable, I'm just telling you that in some jurisdictions, it can be.

There are any number of circumstances where publishing public domain information can subject you to legal jeopardy.

To use an example closer to the situation at hand, if you were to scour the web for the names and addresses of black civil rights leaders and if you then published that information on a racist website that advocated violent retribution against black civil rights leaders, your conduct would be punishable in many jurisdictions, and the fact that you got the information from the public domain would not be a legal defense of your conduct in some of those jurisdictions. If you believe otherwise, you have been misinformed.
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:04 AM
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37. You are wrong
It was only recently that the ability to make your information private was possible.

Registrant information has always been "public", as voter records are "public".

Agreed, that commercial application is improper.

However, if I took your voter record from the voter rolls and published your:

Address, phone number, etc.

And said "have fun everybody" or "get 'em" with malicious intent, I could and would be liable for any phone calls or "visits", or even the fear/threat caused by such an act.

This is different from "help me change so-and-so's mind"...

The information IS PUBLIC but the USE IS IMPROPER.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:21 PM
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20. Take a look lower down on the page.
He is talking shit about DU and skinner on http://hard-talk.com


UPDATE

It seems Michelle Malkin made her way over to the Granola Bowl. OMG
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. heh
I think we crashed him
what a booby
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:52 PM
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31. Even has a post about N.O. police thuggery. He found it vile...
At least he has some sense in his head.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 10:21 PM
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34. I think so too
it won't come up for me.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:29 PM
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25. doesn't really look like his website gets much traffic
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 08:29 PM
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32. I love your website, BTW!
Thank you for your patriotic service - both in the Marines and as a civilian! I salute you!
:patriot:
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