It's a different world after 9/11

A world in which a cowed populace allows a determined executive branch to launch the first pre-emptive invasion in US history; in which hundreds of thousands of deaths are supposed to justify the capturing of one man; in which the FCC turns a blind eye towards buying off journalists to promote propaganda; in which an administration commits federal crimes to smear political opponents; in which lip service is given opposing torture while the same is wholeheartedly endorsed in practice; in which Americans are willing to sell their privacy like whores because their Pimp in Chief has promised to protect them; in which honor is subservient to sheer power, and the human rights of everyone else on the planet are subservient to furthering American prosperity.

I will now be sick.

"It's a different world since 9-11"

NO... it's not. That's just the lame excuse republicans use
when they are trying to get away with something that they
shouldn't be doing (like breaking some kind of law).

Funny how they never actually say WHAT is different.. assholes

That's why I believe in MIHOP. Too much of a coincidence

I would say though, it's a different U.S..

It's a different US (the fact that no one else in the world sees things our way should be a tipoff...)

The Reichstag fire and "protecting the citizens from the Jews and Bolsheviks" were their version of the MSM's litany of propaganda this time around.

Take a look at what happened in WWI. Wilson had laws passed that forbade criticizing the gov't, and he had the AG form groups of Americans to spy on their neighbors for unpatriotic behavior. Not illegal behavior, but unpatriotic (legal) behavior. Tens of thousands were recruited for those secret organizations.

In WWII we rounded up all people of Japanese descent and put them in camps. Many of them had been born here. And don't think that we didn't use torture in WWII. We didn't talk about it, of course, and since we won it can't be proved now. And many DUers (I am not one) consider the A-bombs to have been war crimes.

So far what Bush has done isn't nearly as great as those things. That is not to defend him, but to point out that American has gone through worse and come out of it.

right abot how we didn't exactly come out of those smelling like roses but it sure hurts to see how this could have been a defining moment for the u.s. to lead the world pissed away. i mean no disrespect by emplying 9-11 was something to be capitalized off of. (<-shrub)

Many of the RW extremists who supported those measures back then are still around today, plus they now occupy the highest positions in US govt.
How in heavens name can it be any less bad now then it was back then?

by rolling over on our belly and pissing ourselves in the rush to give up our civil liberties in order to chase the illusion of safety offered by a cheap snakeoil salesman.

9/11 didn't change the world. Our disgusting and cowardly betrayal of our historical lessons, our founding father's vision, and the constitution did that.

What 9-11 changed was our self image. We went from being a strong, brave, free country, to a cowering one, willing to surrender our precious liberties even to thugs like Bush, Cheney, and the others. They cannot protect us, they only make the situation worse. They have bankrupt the country, divided us as never before, and caused more bloodshed and loss of innocent life than any other Americans in history.

I refuse to hide, always afraid of "bad men, lurking, plotting. etc.", the boogie-man that Bush has created, and which has apparently caused otherwise normal people to take leave of their senses, and allow the president to become a dictator. Bush and his administration have caused far more damage to America than any terrorist could, because he is grabbing power, and some are thrusting their own freedom upon him, surrendering their precious freedom for an illusion of safety.