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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:54 PM Original message |
Myth of the 'Twinkie defense' |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Everyone should watch the award winning documentary "The Times of Harvey Milk" |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Which is saying something... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Covers the assasination of Harvey Milk |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Found it at amazon.com... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. The film certainly does not promote the myth. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. If you've got the gay and lesbian channel (LOGO?)... |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. No LOGO, unfortunately... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Sounds that way to me too. |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Part of the problem was the prosecution as well ... |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Why do you think that, meegbear? |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. just semantics by and large |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. And sometimes I'm thick! |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 11:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Anti-gay jury vs. conservative jury? |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
43. A fine suggestion, Lex. :) n/t |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. what the media does is pick a topic and threaten americans |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'm sure Senator Feinstein will never forget the guy--he, in essence, launched her career |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. DiFI and Dan White were allies - both opponents of Moscone and Milk. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. So glad that some do, in fact, remember. Thanks. n/t |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. Fascinating story - I've heard of the Twinkie Defense, and I always |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sounds to me like the prosecution threw the case |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
10. We have a predeliction for false dichotomies, either it's this or it's that |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Good question... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Good point about "artificial line drawn between internal and external! |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. Everyone knew the 'Twinkie' defense was a sham, including Dan White |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Exactly. Everyone knew it was BS, but the jury wanted to just give |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. The jury evidently did not fall for it... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. The jury *did* fall for it to a certain extent. They gave White a mere slap on the wrist |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. So what you are saying... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. No where did I say anything remotely close to that. |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Okay, so we agree the jury did not base its decision on Twinkies. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yes, that's probably closer to the truth. |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Now it's confusing... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Scalia merely applauds the inventiveness of the lawyer who |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:12 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Deny that it became a meme that had nothing to do with Milk. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yes I agree it that it became a meme that had nothing to do with Milk. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
16. The phrase "the twinkie defense" was just a sound bite. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. A couple of things... |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. The article, I think, is about the meme... |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Hmph... |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. We do agree, though, I think. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
31. Same as the McDonald's hot coffee myth. M$M makes it sound like somebody |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Yes, that case was incredibly merit based. The coffee was so hot that when it spilled on her lap |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 10:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Yet any "average amerikan" will tell you how McD's was the victim |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
37. so the "twinkie defense" is not that he ATE a twinkie, but that he SHOT a twinkie? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
39. Oh, sounds like it was gay panic. A much more reputable defense. |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
42. Schmidt and Benton make absurd excuses for murder, now object to an aptly absurd label |
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warrior1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. jealousy |
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