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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 03:21 PM
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Bush has a way out of Iraq
Edited on Tue Dec-05-06 03:22 PM by bigtree

it just happens to be exactly the same way he's been leading us for over three years now . . .


Questions. Helen.

Q Is the President contemplating a way out of Iraq?

MR. SNOW: The way out of Iraq is to have an Iraq that can sustain, govern, and defend itself, to be an ally in the war on terror and also an example to the region that democracy can succeed. So that is the way out.

Q Does he really think he can achieve such a thing?

MR. SNOW: He believes the Iraqi people can achieve it, and it is our goal to help them develop the capacity to do so.

Q To follow on that for a second, it sounds like the job -- he's not leaving until the job is finished. And the job is defined as an Iraq that can sustain, govern, and defend itself. Last week you said --

MR. SNOW: And be an ally in the war on terror.

Q And be an ally in the war on terror. Is the Baker report and the internal reviews that accompany the Baker report over the next couple of weeks an opportunity for the President to redefine what the job is?

MR. SNOW: No, I don't think so. I think it's an opportunity to take advantage of the help of a number of people who are assessing the situation. But, no.

Q This would seem then --

MR. SNOW: I mean, the President has been -- let me just reiterate, Jim, because he's been asked this a number of times. Does it mean that you don't believe you can have an Iraq that can sustain, govern, and defend itself? That remains the goal, period.

Q So if everybody in Washington and people in the country who are somewhat awaiting this report in a breathless manner as if this is going to be the beginning of the age of course correction -- it sounds like what you're suggesting is no major course correction . . .


bingo


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/12/20061205-1.html


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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 03:35 PM
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1. Yeah, there's been all this hoopla about the Dear leader being willing
to consider alternatives. But everything that gets suggested is dismissed out of hand by Mr. Snowjob. I think any suggestion The Decider is truly willing to consider will involve only the three following elements:

1) The word "stay"
2) The word "the"
3) The word "course.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 03:48 PM
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2. puppet government
"MR. SNOW: The way out of Iraq is to have an Iraq that can sustain, govern, and defend itself, to be an ally in the war on terror and also an example to the region that democracy can succeed. So that is the way out."

Seems to me that it's obvious that there are a lot of folks in Iraq who are not crazy about the idea of their country being ruled by a puppet government. American gunships and bombers rule the sky in Iraq and will until... when?
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 03:58 PM
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3. Yes, we ARE considering a major course change!
From staying the course...

To staying the course... (only the names have been changed to protect the guilty).

But... but, that's not a course change?

Yes, it is. It is a course change. From staying the course, to staying the course. Don't you get it? We're going to stay until IRAQ can be our ally; they stand up, we stand down; fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here... See? A course change!

But?

It's simple. The words "course change" mean what we say they mean, and by our definition, we're "changing course" to "stay the course". Therefore, we're highly adaptable and paying attention to what's happening on the ground. See, because we said it, it is so.

Ummm...

Now, don't make me repeat myself... We are not only considering a course change, the course change we're considering is to stay the course. We have a new Secretary of Defense, so there again, we've already changed course. Of course, in reality, we were always on course, so no course change was needed and we stayed the course. However, we considered the facts and now we're going to stay the course. I know you got it that time.

I, uh... So, you're going to stay the course?

No, we're going to stay the course.

That's what I said?

No, you said we were going to stay the course.

Didn't I?

But, see, we were already staying the course, so we've changed course and now we're going to stay the course.

You mean staying the course is different from the original course we were staying?

No, I mean that the original course has been changed to make sure it was the same as it was when we decided to consider changing course and are now going to stay the course.

I, uh, have to, ummm, go now; thank you, thank you for the new information.

Okay, well, you're welcome, but it was always our intent to stay the course while changing course.

Wait, you just said we're changing course!

No, no, no! I said we are staying the course and that we were changing course.

We were, but now we are?

I think you finally understand. This press conference is finished; everybody have a good day, and "stay the course"!
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 04:12 PM
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4. What happened to they stand up we stand down?
Snow-job has piled on a whole new set of preconditions: "sustain, govern, and defend itself, to be an ally in the war on terror and also an example to the region that democracy can succeed. So that is the way out."

Not only does the Iraqi Army, (which by most accounts doesn't actually exist) have to 'stand up' whatever that means, now the Iraqi Government (which by most accounts doesn't actually exist) has sustain (for how long would that be?), has to govern itself, has to be our ally, and has to be a model democracy.

So let us be clear about this: WE ARE NEVER GOING TO LEAVE IRAQ. NOT WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION STILL IN POWER.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:37 PM
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5. 'in power'
key
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