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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:43 PM
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I'm interested in Solar Power and have a few questions
I want to power a 9V 300MA radio that has its own internal batteries and a 12V 200MA transmitter that doesnt, obviously I'm new to this can you recommend a solar power supply (or charger) that will power these two for less than $150?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:48 PM
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1. Check with a good camping supply store
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 01:51 PM by TechBear_Seattle
There is a new technology, still a bit expensive but coming down in price, of small, lightweight solar panels embedded in a plastic sheet that can be rolled up. Backpackers absolutely love them, as they are perfect for recharging GPS indicators. The more watts, the larger the panels (and thus, the more expensive.)

Added: I found this link on Google using "solar power" charger camping for keywords.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/solar-power/flexible-solar-panels.htm
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:49 PM
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2. The transmitter will need a battery
Small solar cell arrays don't have the ability to supply peak current needs of a transmitter. Putting a battery will also allow you to use it after dark or on cloudy days.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:55 PM
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3. Try this retail link:
http://www.realgoods.com

They have a lot of scalable solar stuff available.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:14 PM
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4. I remember reading a post by solarbus about solar power.
Site is http://www.solarbus.org if it is the same person.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 04:30 PM
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5. Thanks
So I take it its best to have a good battery source that can be recharged by the solar panel.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 05:27 PM
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8. Just a few commodity cells should do.
You can get NiMHs that have 2+ amp-hours off the shelf at the grocery store (got two 2000mAh rayovacs in my hand right now in fact.) Decide how many days worth of runtime you want, and double them up in parrallel until you've got enough. You'll be best off to only run them down a small bit except during emergencies (like a large number of cloudy days) e.g. it'll take 9 NiMH's in series to get 12V (1.36V nominal per cell, mine run 1.44 fully charged) though likely you'd use 10 in a device that ran off alkalines since they can take the extra voltage. If they were 2000mAh that would be a 10 hour runtime for the transmitter, deep cycle, or 2 or 3 hours if you want to baby the batteries to extend life. Add 9 more in parallel then that's 20 hours deep cycle, etc.

If you don't mind changing the batteries, something a little cheaper than the charger linked below would work well (note the price includes 10 NiMH cells.) Otherwise you'll either want separate 9V and 12V charge controllers and panels, or a DC-DC stepdown with the below 12V system or equivalent. Unfortunately whenever anything remotely "hobbyist" gets involved prices skyrocket. NiMh's AA's cost about $2 per cell, and a 5-10W panel should do it -- it's just the stuff to jam in-between that might cost a bit -- to wit, a Nimh 4-cell wall wart charger is like $15, but as soon as you try to get one to run off a panel that wasn't built in to start, you're paying out the nose for no good reason.

This would work dandily as a one-piece solution for the transmitter:

http://www.cetsolar.com/deltacharger.htm

There's some other stuff on this page worth looking into -- lower wattage, but very affordable. No vendor endorsement implied -- do shop around. BE CAREFUL! There are gougers in them thar hills.

http://www.cetsolar.com/solarbatchargers.htm

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 06:05 PM
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9. be sure to use low drop isolation diodes if you put cells
in parallel. unless the cells are closely matched, you will have problems otherwise.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 04:35 PM
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6. You might want to post in the Envoronment/Energy forum too
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 05:18 PM
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7. I'm doing it right now Thank You
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