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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:08 AM
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Christmas trees return to SeaTac
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 10:19 AM by Bluebear
I can hear what the workers are thinking (Up, down, up, down, make up your goddamn minds :)

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SEATAC, Wash. Dec 12, 2006 (AP)— Christmas trees are going back up at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

Pat Davis, president of the Port of Seattle commission, which directs airport operations, said late Monday that maintenance staff would restore the 14 plastic holiday trees, festooned with red ribbons and bows, that were removed over the weekend because of a rabbi's complaint that holiday decor did not include a menorah.

Airport managers believed that if they allowed the addition of an 8-foot-tall menorah to the display, as Seattle Rabbi Elazar Bogomilsky had requested, they would also have to display symbols of other religions and cultures, which was not something airport workers had time for during the busiest travel season of the year, Airport Director Mark Reis said earlier Monday.

Port officials received word Monday afternoon that Bogomilsky's organization would not file a lawsuit at this time over the placement of a menorah, Davis said in a statement.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2718751
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:10 AM
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1. curses, foiled again....
:grr:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:15 AM
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2. I know, I thought we had WON a round!!!!!11111
We were screwn!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:18 AM
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4. Well y'know....sometimes you have to throw a little fish back so you can get it again
later when it comes to full size!
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:26 AM
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7. AS long as we
consider this to be a "battle", then the Christians may be right.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:24 AM
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10. Mike_C was kidding
The use of "screwn" was the tip-off.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:37 AM
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11. Ah my bad
hard to understand some of the nuance words have taken in here. Mike C may be joking but I have seen posts where people were not joking.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:32 PM
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12. His post is in freeperese
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 03:33 PM by wryter2000
Whenever you see freeperese (!!!!11, screwn, r u series?, this is hugh!1) you know the DUer is kidding. :rofl:

On edit: I have my posts mixed up, but I think you get the drift.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:16 AM
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3. Already Reported............dupe
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:20 AM
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5. OK that's on LBN
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:25 AM
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6. Actually I applaud it
I think it was ridiculous that they were even taken down. Even the rabbi who initiated the taking down process said he didn't want them down, he just thought that a balance of representation was in store.

I am so tired of this useless battle that wastes time and energy. Of course we go after religious instruction in public schools and monitoring the REAL violations of church and state, but if liberals keep falling into the trap of supporting nonsense like this, then we will continue to waster precious energy and time not to mention look extremely petty and foolish.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:24 AM
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9. I tend to agree
But next year, put up a menorah, too. Would that really hurt so much? If the pagans ask for a symbol, they can just point out that Christmas trees are pagan.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:18 AM
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8. I looked up Buddhist holidays
and it seems most disciplines left out this time of year. Oh well, there goes my ability to force secular entities to add a cheesy gilt Buddha to the confusion.

Personally, I can't understand the good Rabbi's discomfort. Those trees really have nothing to do with the Christian religion except they look and smell nice and are a holdover from Celtic celebrations that took place around the winter solstice near the same time as the Christian holiday. I see them as purely secular, since there are few out there who can cope with the old religion and its demand for the occasional human sacrifice to carry messages to the next world.

Lighting our way through the darkest time of the year is what all those trees and decorated houses mean to me, and that's a very nice thing.

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:38 PM
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13. he's Lubavitch - he's trying to get Judaism out there in public
i take some pride in knowing that my neighborhood, Wedgewood/View Ridge, in NE seattle, home to hundreds of Lubavitch Jews, launched this years' skirmish in the WOC. and that the Port of Seattle, which is awash in cash, ran scared from the 1st threat of a lawsuit. way to go, Seattle.

guess who won? PAGANISM! woo! go N. European pre-monotheism!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:37 PM
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15. Funny, the Libavitchers I knew in Boston were trying to stay
in the background so they wouldn't get beaten up quite as often. I guess times have changed.

Somebody needs to sit down with him and teach him the difference between religious Xmas and secular Xmas.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:31 PM
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17. out in my neighborhood they're loud & proud
no one bashes jews in NE seattle.

i got quizzed on the torah by a lubavitch rabbi on sukkot when i was out walking my terrier.

& i'm IRISH.
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Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:45 PM
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14. You know,
I really think this is kinda dumb. First, why didn't they already have displays for each different faith's midwinter celebration, if they have one? Second, what's the big deal? It maybe takes a million bucks or something to have a menorah, and whatever you need for Kwanzaa (sorry, I'm too lazy to google up whatever that might be, and to look for other religions' icons or whatever), and so forth?

This is nothing but the usual right wingnut "it costs too much to be polite" horsepucky. Too much skull-sweat, most likely- they're not just real long in that department, you with me? How about we have ONE freaking Christmas tree, and ONE menorah, and ONE of whatever else- gee, it might even cost less! We're supposed to be WELCOMING people into the area, it's the freaking AIRPORT, what, it's too much freaking TROUBLE to have welcomes for EVERYONE???

Let me quote: "What the hell's goin ON out there?" And yes, that was Vince Lombardi.

Ask me, this was a right wingnut trolling for the "War on Christmas."
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:55 PM
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16. good for the rabbi. a better man he is..... n/t
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