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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:47 PM Original message |
Simple question: Do we, as DUers and liberals, believe in a woman's right to do |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Its not a simple question |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It IS a simple question. Who controls a woman's body? Her or someone else? |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
60. It is a simple question and the answer is an unqualified... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
254. do women have the right to take illegal drugs? |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:07 AM Response to Reply #254 |
297. The government prohibits everybody from doing those things. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #297 |
299. Actually, I think you can make an across the board, consistent philosophical point |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #299 |
300. Yes, you could but women as a sexual/reproductive resource... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #297 |
304. The point is that there are community interests to consider |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #304 |
319. Wrong. My uterus is my business--not yours or any community's. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #254 |
298. And that's wrong, too. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #254 |
312. Yes and yes. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
226. Agreed -- it IS a simple question |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #226 |
253. If it is in your body, it is *you* |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #253 |
272. Exactly -- I agree with your post completely |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #272 |
287. Thanks--pass the word! nt |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
229. From Planned Parenthood. Roe does not protect the right to abortion in the 3rd trimester. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
283. Seems pretty friggin simple and straightforward, to me. |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
305. Must be nice to not even answer the |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Should she have the right to have the public subsidize her brood through tax deductions? nt |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Utter ballocks. Tax deductions do NOT approach the cost of raising a kid. Nice strawman, though. |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. It's still a subsidy |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. we have sun and we have wind. Energy is not a problem. |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Solar and wind are still finite. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. The sun is going to last for at least another 5 billion years. |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. The output for a given amount of time is limited. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:37 PM Original message |
suppose I could use that dollar to buy all I needed in one year. Then it would be just fine |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
91. Efficiency can only go so far |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Well luckily we are not going to be near that for a very long time. |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Like I said - standard of living will start dropping far before then. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
138. Apparently you've never heard of compound interest... |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
104. solar and wind might be finite - but... |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:05 PM Response to Reply #104 |
115. Dinosaur pee is the big issue (one of my teachers once told the class |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. At the rate we are killing people... |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. What a joke |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. There's plenty of space for everyone in this world |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. There won't be if population continues to increase. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Are you putting the blame solely |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Of course not - men are to blame too. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. I have the feeling |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. I agree with that view. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:54 AM Response to Reply #103 |
203. What do you think they will be fighting about? |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #203 |
279. Religion, beliefs, whatever. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #279 |
295. I think those things add fuel to the fire-- |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #295 |
317. there is no limit to God, but there is a limit to being able to worship |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #94 |
110. The existence of one threat doesn't mean we should ignore all others. nt |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:05 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. So many threats, so little time... |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #114 |
157. So much to be concerned about |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
162. It is true that technology allows the earth to support more and |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:56 AM Response to Reply #73 |
207. Simple, colonize other planets |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. "The pro-birth crowd?" That phrase tells me that discussing anything with you |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Giving up so soon? nt |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Yes, indeed. I don't argue with people who use dogmatic phrases like that. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
97. As opposed to what? Pro-hatchling? Pro-cloning? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
149. you also subsidize war, roads, deforestation, torture, prisons |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
198. "pro-birth crowd"? What is "the pro-birth crowd"? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
161. The personal deduction does not cover the cost of |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Sexist is as Sexist does |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
222. You got that right Moochy |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. WTF??? |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Certainly not "Quiverfull Underground". nt |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
133. LOL Perfect! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #20 |
225. What does that have to do with a womand and reproductive rights? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
135. Deleted message |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
152. Is the child with 12 siblings less deserving than the child with only 1? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
175. Interesting statistic |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
180. I hate it when threads are hijacked |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #180 |
325. Thats why we need better intelligence |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
205. Your question is not a strawman. |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
276. good question |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. I do |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Just trying to take the temperature of the general DU population here. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
105. Ha! More like *raise* the temperature |
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badgerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
258. Yes. It's a woman's right to do what she wants with her body...UNLESS |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yes |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. because this issue BEGS for a simple answer |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Be my guest. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yes |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:55 PM Original message |
It wouldn't punish the poor - If they are living within their means, it would reward them. nt |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
21. "Oh, if only THEY would be more RESPONSIBLE..." Listen to Rush much, do you? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. And taking away food stamps wouldn't punish the poor - |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. Straw man |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #54 |
221. How would taking tax examptions away decrease |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. Do you want America to win in Iraq? |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Simple question. Nobody's forcing you to participate. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. and my point |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. A simple question. Is a woman in charge of what she does with her body, or not? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
63. Nice |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. As you put it, no. I need a "but" |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. That would be doing something to someone else's body ... |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. It is mine I'll do what I think is right. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. You betcha it was. |
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Alleycat (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. I completely support a women's right to to do what ever she wants |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. As a former staffer for Planned Parenthood, I can tell you that |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
146. Let me get this straight |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #146 |
153. mmm.... smell the sexism |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:35 AM Response to Reply #153 |
210. Ok |
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chefgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #146 |
197. Wait a minute here BoneDaddy |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:34 AM Response to Reply #197 |
209. You misunderstand |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:35 AM Response to Reply #146 |
199. couple questions: is "choice" choice?Do you know what 1st trimester abortion entails? |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:37 AM Response to Reply #199 |
211. Yes, |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:32 AM Response to Reply #146 |
214. Well, ya lost me with your first sentence |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:42 AM Response to Reply #214 |
218. So you are telling me that |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:52 AM Response to Reply #218 |
219. First trimester is done without |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #219 |
220. Did you read what I wrote or just react? |
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Danascot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #220 |
244. Stupid and Irresponsible? |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #244 |
250. You can't have it both ways |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:56 AM Response to Reply #244 |
302. Puh lease |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:57 AM Response to Reply #214 |
303. Deleted message |
CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #146 |
259. Uh, I didn't promote anything. I was just telling you what we learned |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #259 |
301. I understand |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #301 |
313. PP health workers always promote contraception and safe |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 06:32 AM Response to Reply #313 |
322. If you are referring to me as anti choice |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #301 |
314. "for those pushing an agenda." |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 06:30 AM Response to Reply #314 |
321. Your opnion |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #321 |
324. I did read, now you read |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #324 |
334. Agreed |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #334 |
335. Demonzed ?? rofl... |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #335 |
340. Good |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #146 |
330. I don't think she was saying this mindset is "okay." |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
131. And YOU get to decide what is responsible? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. Of course the answer is yes. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Helluva good point, there. Even though not germane to the original post. I'd be happy if you |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. You know, Redstone, this is a great thread question. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Did you get a quote from Castle? Were they competitive? That window business |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
83. No, but I guess I 'd better. Oh god, this is absolute torture. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. You think that's bad? Try getting quotes on siding. One siding sales guy (from Sears) |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. well, no house in Greenwich has siding I can tell you. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Now THERE's some perspective. I like that. |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
95. Shoot! You stepped on my answer. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
118. I have always contended that the equivalent of a woman's right to choose |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:11 AM Response to Reply #118 |
201. If you are asking me if I think |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
18. Dont all humans have a de facto autonomy by nature ? |
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rknryd (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. YES! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
22. Of course we do. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Of course you can question people's wisdom. But I've seen an awful lot of condemnation |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. . |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. If you've read more than one or two of my posts, you'd know that. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. You are arguing and ridiculing everyone here with a different opinion than yours |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I'm asking for a yes or a no. Only arguing with people who won't provide a yes or a no, or |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. for some people the answer isn't a yes or no |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. And almost EVERY reply in the negative is because of selfishness. Read it for yourself. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. there is more to it -it is a complex issue |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Oh, well. Life gets to be like that sometimes, doesn't it? |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
102. I said *the public*, not *me*. How is that selfish? nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:05 PM Response to Reply #82 |
116. Isn't it selfish to expect others to subsidize your choices? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #82 |
196. so not wanting to give my money to support other people's kids |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. Condemnation & selfishness |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. I realize that. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. Now THAT's the spirit! I like what you said. |
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Suich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
24. Yes! |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
27. Yes, she does. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. as do men. |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. No question about that either. nt |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. Yes |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. Yes |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
40. Lets just go back to the smoking threads |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
41. Yes... I think I've always felt that way. |
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Bjornsdotter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
43. Yes n/t |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. Yes indeedy :) |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Bad boy. Bad, BAD boy! You're responsible for famines and plagues and |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. RW wants to stop abortion, LW caps on kids |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. I always get a laugh when I hear someone say "I don't want to bring a child into this awful world |
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Crandor (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. The difference, of course, being that one is based on fact. nt |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Scientists are like preachers at times, you get difference answers |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
45. she can do with her body what she wants...and no one should be able to legislate on it |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
92. But there are women in 3rd world countries for whom a large family |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. kids in the third world dont consume as many resources as kids in the first world |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. Yes, so true. I always say that where they CAN, women have fewer |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:04 AM Response to Reply #98 |
204. Not in Kerala they don't |
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Redneck Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
49. Not a simple question |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. So by that logic, if you rent an apartment, the mortgage tax deduction is unfair to you? |
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Redneck Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
112. That depends, is home ownership something... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. not just you...the world at large is affected...also lets be honest here |
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caseycoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
52. YES! n/t |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
62. Simple answer: YES. Beyond that, support or subsidies are not a given |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
147. So, is the child with 12 siblings less deserving of food and clothing |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #147 |
159. No, which is precisely why you should bear the children you can afford to support |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #159 |
163. Unless you support capping tax benefits after a certain amount of children |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. I think it's reasonable to cap benefits after a certain number of children. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. It absolutely does punish the children. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. Different parents have different incomes. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. So, yes, Punish the children for choices the parent made. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:21 PM Original message |
The children, first of all, don't get breaks - the parents do. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
169. Well, why on earth do you think the parents are getting that subsidy? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. I don't see why the state should subsidize anything that has a negative |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Look. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. Incorrect. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #172 |
173. If they have no impact, then why do you insist on removing them??? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. Let's first clear up some of the things you're confused about: |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #174 |
181. Then you didn't say we shouldn't subsidize more than two children? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Go back and review my posts in this sub thread and see if you can find me |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:27 AM Response to Reply #182 |
183. Forget the actual number. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #183 |
184. You don't need to ask what I'm claiming if you use your eyes to read what I wrote. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:38 AM Response to Reply #184 |
185. That's absolutely what I thought you were saying. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #185 |
187. You're STILL confused. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #187 |
189. I'll tell you who doesn't decide. The children! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #189 |
190. Funny, you still didn't answer the question: who decides they will be born? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #190 |
191. I know who makes that decision. The parents. Are you happy I typed that out? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:50 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. The subsidy isn't for the parents? Who claims it? Who decides how the money |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:56 AM Response to Reply #192 |
193. Do you know why that is? (It's the Math, part II) |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #193 |
217. Bullshit. If it's for the kids, why is it dependant on the parents taxes? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #217 |
248. I think there may be limits for the very rich, but you're wrong. All families get |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #248 |
262. Incorrect AGAIN. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #262 |
270. Nope. I'm right. Link: |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #270 |
271. I said the CHILD TAX CREDIT. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
70. Or to give blow jobs to married men? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
75. As long as she doesn't smoke, I guess ... at least according to some DUers. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Or take those kids to dinner at The Olive Garden. |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:36 AM Response to Reply #79 |
202. I was wondering when |
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zaj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #202 |
278. What did I miss? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
80. NO - ABSOLUTELY NOT - I am a total hypocrite. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #80 |
121. Hopefully, you don't support a man's right to do any of this either, right? |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #121 |
213. It doesn't go for both of them ... |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:27 PM Response to Reply #121 |
292. Well |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
89. Yes. Period. |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
90. Yes. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
93. Yes, I believe in the rights to abortion and reproduction as a matter of law |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #93 |
266. DAMN STRAIGHT |
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jfkraus (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
96. What about the father? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
111. Does he get a say? Hopefully. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
101. I don't see the right to an abortion as the same as the right to have a lot of kids. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #101 |
119. I agree, but in the same regard... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:22 PM Response to Reply #119 |
129. See my earlier posts on this thread about women who use abortion |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
109. Yes. Without question. |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
113. depends |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Well, this is odd. Only when I clicked "reply" did I see the "sarcasm" tag. Though I already knew |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
117. yes |
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Wonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
120. ibtl |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
122. Uh Oh....... |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
124. Yes. |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
125. Yes. At least, I do, don't know about the rest of y'all. n/t |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
126. Absolutely, YES.... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
127. Yes |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
128. Okay, in all seriousness |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
130. Yep. And that includes prostitution. Legalize it. If that is how a PERSON wants to earn a living |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
132. Yes. AND.... |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
134. Yes, I do. Forcing a woman to do anything she doesn't want is immoral. nt |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #134 |
267. Even if it's forcing her to drive the speed limit? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
136. As simple as it gets: Yes. |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
137. She's not allowed to smoke drugs with her body. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
139. Yes, unless doing so somehow violates the rights of others. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
140. Yes, but we can still disagree with those decisions. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #140 |
150. exactly |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
141. I believe everyone has a right to do with his/her body as he/she pleases. |
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zaj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
142. If I'm allowed no qualification, then "no" (she's not completely unrestricted) |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #142 |
260. You probably know that the Roe decision is in line with your thinking. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
143. Yes... |
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Greybnk48 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
144. Yes. No qualifications. Yes. |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
145. if she CHOOSES to have a dozen kids |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
148. Yes |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
151. life isn't simple |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
154. Of course. n/t |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
155. Yes. n/t |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
156. Yes |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
158. YES! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
160. Yes, and she has the right to smoke and drink while pregnant |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
168. Yes. I do. As long as she's not harming another human being. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
176. No one has the right to tell anyone what to do with their body |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
177. Yes if that's what she chooses to do with her body Whatever she chooses |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
178. Yes, definitely. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #178 |
268. Aha! There's they key- INFORMED choices |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #268 |
269. The key word is Capable. |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
179. Yes. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
186. Of course |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
188. Yes. n/t |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
194. I am going to have to go with "no" just to see what you might say if I said that. n/t |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #194 |
326. Lol |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
195. Will someone please explain how a question about ... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #195 |
227. Here's how: once children are born it stops being about a woman's right to |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #227 |
232. But the OP's question was about a woman's right to control her own body. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #232 |
233. And the OP's question has implications beyond just that question. |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #233 |
235. I saw the answers, but some seemed to imply "no" because of the implications ... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #235 |
236. I had a different reading. You may have the right to do whatever you like with |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #236 |
239. Oh come on |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #239 |
240. Not a straw man at all. To me the principle is exactly the same - it's your body, |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #240 |
242. I see what you mean, now. Sorry ... I misunderstood you. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #242 |
243. No problem - thanks for letting me clarify. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
200. It goes like this: |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
206. YES! but judging from all these post-titles, I'd say you didn't get "simple answers" |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
208. I have another question, who is to say how many kids is too many? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
212. Yes. n/t |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
215. Yes - it's up to her, no one else. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
216. Yes. Though I think women with like more than 6 kids are fuckin crazy. |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
223. Hell YES! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
224. What a simple question. |
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DixieBlue (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
228. Yes. |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
230. Yes. nt |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
231. Are YOU still beating your spouse!?!?! |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
234. Fascinating. |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
237. Woo-Wee - such a tempest |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #237 |
327. Breeder vs Faggot |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
238. yes n/t |
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Danascot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
241. I believe a woman has the right to abort |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
245. Yes |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
246. Of course she has that right |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
247. YES. It's HER body. NO ONE has the right to dictate what she does with it. n/t |
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JacksonWest (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
249. No. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
251. I vote yes.... |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
252. As a woman, |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
255. yes |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #255 |
284. "Control issues?" I guess you didn't read my post, did you? |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #284 |
286. Of course I read your post |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #286 |
288. My point: NOBODY should have control over what a woman does. That's a CONTROL ISSUE? |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #288 |
291. So sorry |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #291 |
293. Thank you SO much for the free psychoanalysis. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:45 PM Response to Reply #293 |
294. You're welcome |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
256. yes |
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hwmnbn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
257. yes |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
261. Yes. |
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Vox Acerbus (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
263. Yes |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
264. What a bullshit framework |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
265. Yep. It's her karma. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
273. I have no idea what "we" believe. I know what I believe. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
274. Yes n/t |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
275. Not "whatever," no. |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
277. Simply YES |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
280. Simply NO. |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
281. Yes, absolutely! |
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Dastard Stepchild (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
282. I can't vouch for all liberals or DUers...nor would I want to.... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
285. Yes. nt |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
289. Yep to abortion. No to a bunch of kids, if it's my tax dollar that's funding her huge family. |
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tinfoilinfor2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
290. Simple for me. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
296. Simplistic question. The law supports that right whether you "believe" it-- or not |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
306. Yes!!! |
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Son Of Spy (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
307. Simple question: Do we, as DUers and liberals, believe in a woman's right to do |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
308. YES. n/t |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
309. Absolutely. |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
310. Yes. n/t |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
311. I support everyone's natural right to personal autonomy. nt. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
315. Yes |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #315 |
316. YES |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
318. Of course |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
320. Deleted sub-thread |
ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
323. Yes n/t |
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dethl (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
328. Short answer: Yes. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
329. IMO, if a woman and man freely decide to have a child and pregnancy occurs, then both should agree |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #329 |
331. How would that be enforced? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #331 |
332. Some things that are morally correct cannot be enforced by society. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
333. yes. n/t |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
336. YES |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
337. No. I believe a full-term fetus has a right to be born, as long as it doesn't endanger the mother. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
338. Y E S |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
339. Yes... |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
341. yes, I DO. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-26-06 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
342. Only when we stop asking the question of what rights a woman has |
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