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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 09:17 PM
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I wonder what 4 tours in Iraq will do to all these young people.
Hell some will probably do 5 or 6 tours before this is over. Going to Iraq with PTSD already.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 09:21 PM
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1. You know EXACTLY what it will do to them. We all do. Except bush. He may know,
or he may not know, but he doesn't give a fuck.

Redstone
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 09:25 PM
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2. It's scary Redstone.
Both the consequences of traumatizing these kids, and Bush not giving a fuck.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 09:35 PM
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3. Yes, truly frightening, it is. Watch this video, and tell me what you think:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/12/21/12969/

This video gave me the heebie-jeebies.

Redstone
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:00 PM
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6. It's like Hitler at Stalingrad,not Johnson in Viet Nam.
This is really bad,my friend.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:06 PM
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7. Now, THAT is an excellent observation. I salute you.
Edited on Thu Dec-21-06 10:06 PM by Redstone
Scary, yes? Joe Lifelong Republican, saying that bushyboy has gone off the mental rails.

We got trouble. Right here in River City. Right here, and it rhymes with P, and that starts with B, and that stands for Bush.

He's turning into Nixon right before our eyes, except that Nixon held on to at least a shred of humanity even until the end.

Redstone
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 10:48 AM
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12. If Bush is scaring people like Scarborough
We SHOULD be terrified.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 09:36 PM
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4. messes them up forever.
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:00 PM
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5. We already know the answer.
There have been enough "incidents" with returning soldiers to know exactly how bad it will be for many of them.

Here's the curious thing: we had generally 1-year tours during Viet Nam, and from what I'm seeing, it doesn't seem to matter, whether you bring in new troops or keep in your seasoned soldiers. The outcome is messed up for all of them and it doesn't seem to make a difference, militarily. But I'm no expert.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:12 PM
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8. It will fuck up a lot of them
and will do serious harm to the armed forces and the reserves as institutions. Just all around bad for the nation and its people.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:20 PM
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9. the whole thing ...no matter
how you look at it is completely fucked up. I guess maybe it's taken me all these years to see what war does to any human being. Rinse and repeat...I can't imagine.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:30 PM
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10. Troops serving in Iraq seeking treatment for PTSD are being ostracized -
Edited on Thu Dec-21-06 10:32 PM by bullwinkle428
I was listening to a story on this on NPR this morning. I found the link for it:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6576505

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6586295
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 11:25 PM
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11. Home for Xmas
Doctors said King should have never survived. Two improvised explosive devices hit the fuel cell of his Bradley Fighting Vehicle in Taji, Iraq, in August. He suffered burns to over 60 percent of his body, lost his left arm and went blind in his right eye. He may also still lose his legs. He was just about out of the Army when it happened.

"He has exposed bone and tendon in all four of his fingers," said his mom, Jill King.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 10:53 AM
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13. The foxhole becomes home
I've met guys who can barely function in peace time now.
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