"Christmas Is Under Siege", declares Prime-Time Ad

A Prime-time ad during NBC Nightly News urges all viewers to see
"The Nativity" (starring Kiesha Castle-Hughes as Mary, herself an
unwed teen mother, it turns out) in order to learn "the TRUE story
of Christmas".

It flashes articles on screen about Seattle and
Minneapolis banning Santa Claus or what-not.
"Christmas Under Siege", "Creches Banned From Airport."

This is a mainstream movie ad! NONE of the _Passion_ ads
were so blatantly divisive. They must be desperate to cause a
controversy because the movie was poorly reviewed for its fake
"Hebrew accents" and cloying Merchant-Ivory production values.

Wise men, take point!

I want the little drummer boy suited up to ship out at 0900 hours--- this is WAR, people!

I never saw so much fuss about Christmas in all my life. I think it gets more hysterical every year

Call up the x-tian militia!!!



Fix yer bayonet-crucifixes!



Onward x-tian crusaders, MARCH!!!

Christmas, at least as defined by the right wing, is in absolutely no trouble at all. It has taken over about a fourth of the calendar. In this country Christmas begins a little earlier every year, It now begins sometime around Halloween and runs at least until the end of December. It is rare to find a store or public building that is not festooned with colored lights and enticements to buy Christmas gifts, to consume in the name of the Baby Jesus. Is there a radio station or TV station that is not playing Christmas music? I haven't found it. And drive through almost every neighborhood and see the garish, tasteless light shows, and NONE of this has to do with the birth of Jesus who admonished us to give up all worldly possessions and follow him. Religious fundamentalists believe all of the stories in the Bible and NONE of the lessons.

Please forgive my rant. I'm still a little upset over an incident at work yesterday. I unwisely wished someone "Happy Holidays" and was set upon by a co-worker (whom I previously liked) who informed me that people who don't celebrate Christmas should "go back where they came from." How has the message of Jesus become so perverted?

Bill O'Reilly should go back where HE came from; under a rock or rotted log somewhere.

have an incredibly strong desire to be martyrs and Christmas time is a great time for such activity. They lie about their being a "war" on Christmas that just has to be perpetrated by non christians of course, thereby making the god loved ones martyrs. To top it off they are egged on by the likes of o'lielly who must keep the lemmings in a lather. When "christians" aren't hating in the name of Jesus Christ, they are making up scenarios to be able to feel sorry for one another. They spend a great deal of time being miserable during Christmas time. Sad that all this nonsense is going on in the "land of the Free."

that Jesus was probably born at some other time of year and that the period around Dec. 21-25 was borrowed from people who celebrated the birth of the god Mithras or the rebirth of the sun god or goddess. And if they don't like it, tough. It was a pagan holiday long before Christians chose to pretend it was the time of Jesus's birth.


Keep the Sol in Solstice!

Jesus was NOT born in December; this season was hijacked by the Christians as a response to the pagans and their Winter Solstice!

Thanks.

Would-be conservative Jews who think they're going to be welcomed "in the club" (ha! my Grandparents-if they were still alive, could tell you all about that) should understand that all this religious right blather about this being a "Judeo-Christian Nation" is really about it being a





judeo-CHRISTIAN NATION.

I love your Gore graphic. Did you make it?

It's a bumper sticker, too-

http://www.cafepress.com/impeachw.95688014

Thanks! Man, I hope he runs.

:)

I hope he runs too. IMHO, he's the best man for the job in so many ways. But if he decides against running, I'll understand. (I'm trying not to get my hopes up.)

I can't even begin to dissect that statement. I'd be be typing all day. :eyes:

Of course, the ad is aimed at achieving maximum box office impact so they can worship their REAL god, the almighty dollar. That's the TRUE story of christmas as far as they're concerned. How many asses they can get in seats to watch THEIR skewed version of history and how much that version will will mean in box office receipts. Yeah, lecture me about the TRUE story of christmas, you fucking hypocrites.

the true story: Someone knocked up this poor girl, and she said she didn't sleep with anyone, and they believed her, and made an entire religion out of it.

The baby did become a great man, but it wasn't because his mother didn't have sex. It was simply because he was a great man.

Look you intolerant gits. Celebrate whatever you want to celebrate. Here's the secret. You don't get to tell other people what the heck they are going to celebrate.

a little xmas tree, did I lash back at her with an anti-christmas tirade? Nope. I said it was cute and thanked her kindly for the present.


One christmas I bought my grandma a cyrstal crucifix as a gift. It went over so well, I got my step mom one the next year. I did that out of respect for THEIR beliefs, not my own.

So, tell me, does this sound like the actions of someone who is at 'war'? Because I'm all for the separation of Church and State, which is the true meaning of the so-called 'War on Christmas', IMO.


Happy Holidays. ;-)

Angry Xtians need their own TV show called "Who Wants To Be A Martyr."

:rofl:

Let me preface this by saying the war on christmas is a pile of crap. It's become the 'seasonal issue' and just an excuse for some "morans" to adorn themselves in garments of rightous outrage.

so here's the solution:

According to one recent article - conservatives "give" more to charities than liberals.

Another article states the average household spends $800 on christmas presents.

since Christmas is also the season of giving - I propose that no one, this means all Americans, do not buy christmas gifts and donate the money to charity. Do not decorate your homes, do not buy christmas trees, do not buy 'special foods' for christmas dinner - instead take that money you would have spent and donate it to a charity.

this is not a call to boycott - but rather an embargo against the commercial and politization of the season.

Contact the stores and companies who sell/make the products you would have normally bought at christmas and tell them you are joining in the war on christmas and have donated the money to charity in their name - be sure to mention you are thanking Bill O'reilly and other pundits for their influence and for opening your eyes to the real meaning of christmas.

I realize this is probably too late to have any effect on this year's war on christmas -- but it's something to keep in mind for next year

that's where that stat comes from. a hullaballoo last year in canada followed from the same type claim: that 'conservatives' are more generous then libs etc, but a followup study showed that the conmen included the cash given by nitwits to the ratwing fundy churches, which truly staggers the imagination. Take that out, and conservatives aren't even in the running - it's a one man race! and think about it. Them racist sexist secret classwar-on-poor lying phony christian bastard pigs more generous then us?
yeah, and geebush had a mandate
lol

so instead of buying presents - give the money to a charity of your choice.

imagine a big store chain received a few thousand letters at their headquarters with everyone saying "Instead of purchasing gifts this year, I've donated the money to ___________. I just wanted you to know that I've surrendered to the war on christmas and do so in the name of Bill O'reilly and (___other RW's_____)"

you talking about NOT FEEDING mr tapeworm!? mygod man....they're watching this site!

Haters are usually control freaks, hence the need for rigid ideology and punishment for sin.

Lots of holy stuff, there.

that everyone in the Christmas decoration industry and all the other industries could lose their jobs!

And if supporters of gay marriage need money - the wedding industry is bound to be supportive!

The statistics from the College of Philanthropy are skewed towards poorer states because it only picks up giving as a percentage of itemized tax deductions. So, if 20% of the residents of Alabama or Mississippi itemize, it will make their charity look a lot more impressive than a Massachusetts, where 45% of residents itemize.

so if they have bad fake Hebrew accents that's even worse.

They spoke Aramaic. At least Mel Gibson knew that.

I think the best idea I've seen about the whole war on Christmas comes from atheists quoted I believe in the New Yorker (or maybe NYT).

There are two Christmases. One is the Christian religious holiday. The other is a secular holiday.

The secular Christmas has won out. Christmas isn't about baby jesus etc. It's about consumerism, materialism, santa claus, cookies, shiny baubles, decorated trees.

I think this drives the fundies crazy.

god like that and the xian just took over that date for the birth of J.C.?

they're pimping a movie as the "true" story! LOL, the fundies should be the MOSt furious!

Peace on earth. Good will to men.

Nothing hurts the image of Christmas more than the image of Christianity. It's a god damned shame, literally.

That makes it OK.

:eyes:

You can find evidence of that in all of the threads where DUers are raising money and checking in on our fellow DUers. Oh, and wanting peace on earth and an end to war. Yep. That sounds like Christmas is under siege to me.

Of course, I worked with a man who truly believed, and told me to my face, that liberals like me wanted to remove even the mention of Jesus from every public place in America and that liberals were persecuting Christians. Nevermind the fact that I am a Christian. :eyes:

Sigh. Is this all that some folks have to worry about? What a small, small world they live in.

or at least push the image of the big bad liberals persecuting them.

It is only with this "siege" mentality that they can scream to high Heaven for punishment for the "persecutors"!

I've often thought that if we were to simply laugh at them, rather than take them "seriesly", they would crumble like an empty sack. Nothing pisses them off like not being taken "series"!!!11!

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