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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:31 PM Original message |
I finally figured out why fundies are so adamant that being gay is a choice |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bding! Bding! Bding! Give the man a cigar. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Woman, actually |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. there are several heroes in that fairy tale that |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Such as? Details, details! We need names! |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. a few examples: |
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melnjones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Um... |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. But the story of Jonathan and David is totally gay. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. don't forget christ's ''beloved'' -- john. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
47. No mention of the Centurion?! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Yup -- exactly |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. actually some fundamentalists admit that there is a disposition toward being gay |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. Wait, who was going on about hormones in food.... |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Dunno. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Absolutely |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Taken to its logical extreme |
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Kber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
57. The fundy argument (with which I disagree) |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yeah, but why would g*d create an abomination, in his image, that |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yes, but eating shell fish |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Yes, but eating shellfish and pork are choices |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. What if shellfish was the only food available and if you didn't eat it, |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Well, according to Judiasm |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. They pick and chose which bible passages to live by. This is, in their mind |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
49. And some of them have the NERVE to have music in the temple, |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. The problem in the Bible is that every moral platitude is contradicted |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
55. Most fundies Christians |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. If being gay is a choice, then one could choose not to be gay. |
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G Hawes (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. That sounds like a reasonable theory |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Many Native Americans have a most basic way of |
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G Hawes (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Oh, I agree entirely |
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KitchenWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. ding ding ding! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. It is a wedge issue promoted by the right back 30 years. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. That's right. It's straight from wedgenomics. nt |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. After the civil rights movement..the gay rights movement was next |
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sillyphoenix (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. and X gets the square! (nt) |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
24. 1st. Always ask them when they made the choice not to have sex with other men/women... |
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tazaroo (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Explain bisexuality then? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. it is not a choice. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Cool. So you could totally go either way, but you just go w/chicks for...???? |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. No one "chooses" whether they are attracted to a particular gender |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. They were born that way |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 08:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
50. I have two things to say |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 09:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Being gay is not a choice. eom |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
59. Nice tombstone...loser! |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
60. When did you choose to not to have sex with both sexes? |
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DeepGreen (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
30. Whether it be genetic, environmental, or by choice, does it make a difference? |
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tazaroo (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. What if the two consenting adults are related |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. So if they are, should we lock them up in jail or something? Is that what you mean? -eom |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. How many cases of this have you heard of? |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. Sounds good to me |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
34. i dont think they are capable of such complex thought.. but endstinktively they know it is true |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Endstinktively. That's very good. May I use that (with acknowledgements, of course)? nt |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. sure.. my personal favorate is "Decidership" |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
38. It has roots in the perpetual debate between free will and predestination. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. It's not just fundies. I just got a PM from an atheist telling me that |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. One of their big problems with homosexuality is that it does not produce |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
43. its more triabal than that, gotta multiply |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
45. Some questions one might ask a fundie who says being gay is a sin: |
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liberalpress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
52. Not Necessarily |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
53. I think you're right |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
54. Ask them when they chose to be heterosexual. |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
58. I think you're onto something. |
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