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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:02 PM
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Man Charged With Sex Crime From 70s
Man Charged With Sex Crime From 70s

POSTED: 6:34 pm EST December 30, 2006

VIERA, Fla. -- A 61-year-old Cocoa man faces life in prison if convicted on five counts of capital sexual battery stemming from charges that allegedly happened in the 70s.

The victim said she was 8-years-old when Clifford Varner allegedly entered her room and raped her on and off for the next five years.

More than 30 years later, the victim is poised to face her alleged attacker in court as Brevard County prosecutors bring charges against him.

The charges are under a Florida law that eliminates time limitations on the reporting and prosecution of capital sexual battery crimes involving children under 12.

http://www.local6.com/news/10637047/detail.html
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:08 PM
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1. If he's innocent and these are therapy-induced memories,
...he's going to have a hard time proving what he didn't do 30 years ago.

I believe in time limits for bringing a case.

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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:36 PM
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2. Without any type of corrberating evidence
I find this very troublesome to prosecute.

OTOH, if she kept a diary, told friends, or their are contemporaneous records that support her accusations, then I can accept the prosecution.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:38 PM
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3. The worst kind of evidence! lolol
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Branjor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:17 PM
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4. Yeah, right...
She was eight years old and should have kept a diary about her rapes. :eyes:
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:21 PM
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6. And of course
30 years after the fact we should just take this woman's words at face value.

Why even have a trial?
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AlwaysQuestion Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:20 PM
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5. This is a tough one
If he's truly guilty, then I don't think there should be time limits. I do think, however, that there should be a law that states that if you falsely accuse someone of a crime then you should have to serve the prison term generally meted out for the specific crime you were accusing another to have done. Falsely accusing another is one of the worst crimes possible, yet it's been done time and time and time again with few repurcussions to the accuser. Finding true justice is really not an easy thing to achieve--so many gray areas--so many variables--so much politics. We need more science.

Just as an aside, I remember as a little girl there was one particular uncle I never wanted to go with on an outing. I could never say why--he just gave me the creeps.

In any event, when I was about 9 years old, my dad received a transfer some several thousand miles away from the city where I was born and where this particular uncle lived. So it was, I never saw him again until I was 24 when I made my first trip back to my home town. In all the intervening years, however, I still retained these negative thoughts about this uncle.

I was very curious to check out these feelings by looking him up. He was pleased to hear from me and insisted that I come stay with him and my aunt for a few days. I grabbed the opportunity and took him up on the invitation. I spent a good deal of time with him during my visit trying very hard to corroborate the feelings I had had of him as a child and that I had kept of him over the years. Imagine my surprise when I had no bad vibes about him at all. Absolutely none. In fact, I was truly unnerved and surprised by this. Surely if something untoward had happened as a child for which he was the cause it would all come streaming back when I sAW him again. But that was not the case.

The mind is a funny thing.

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:14 AM
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7. I was molested in the 70's
I am in therapy but I always remembered it.Thing is I would love to see the pig who hurt me behind bars if he was to be executed I would want to kill him throw the switch stick the needle in.

You see this pig left he went to florida he was a preacher. The FBI was after him one day I was cooking something and my mom answered the door this was in the 80's and it was the FBI asking about the pig.I wanted to ask the agent to talk to him but my mother was blocking my way. I was scuttled away. I wanted this pig caught. Who knows how many others may have been hurt. But In the 90's I tried to get him arrested but the statute of limitations was in my way, never mind that my cousin knew my mother had told my therapists, and I was not considered a trauma patient,for many years I was misdiagnosed schizophrenic but the reason the mellaril and thorazine did not help is I was not schizophrenic.. But even as I say this the fanatic defenders of the false memory freaks will come out and try to say I make it all up. The denial about how common sexual abuse of kids is in this country runs deep and there are alot of guilty parents who would rather their kids forget. Remember there are motives on the bystanders and perpetrators to keep child abuse memories buried inside their victims too. Many families insist on keeping secrets and they protect the family tyrant because that is what the dynamics of abuse does it protects prepretrators And I think the FMSF is very sympathetic to the secret keepers and perps, The FMSF has pedophiles on thier boards and they go too far.
Underwager one of the founders of the FMSF said this:

"Paedophiles need to become more positive and make the claim that paedophilia is an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings. This is the only way the question is going to be answered, of whether or not it is possible. Does it happen? Can it be good? That's what we don't know yet, the ways in which paedophiles can conduct themselves in loving ways. That's what you need to talk about. You need to get involved in discourse, and to do so while acting. Matthew 11 talks about the wisdom of God, and the way in which God's wisdom, like ours, can only follow after. Paedophiles need to become more positive and make the claim that paedophiles is an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings." <8>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Memory_Syndrome_Foundation

Read that trash called the "rind report" if you want to see the kind of slime the FMSF is composed of.
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