Who are the chickenshit Dems? List the ones we need to vote out

It's not enough to vote out the repugs. I'm sure there are plenty of chickenshit Dems in office that don't want to rock the boat. Lieberman is one that comes to mind first and foremost. Hillary has been a little hawkish lately, although I'm not entirely convinced that she has gone to the dark side.

Even if we do get a majority in Congress next year, it won't be enough to impeach the shrub unless we have more people like Barbara Boxer willing to stand up to this admin's corruption and lies.

I can see your point; but other than Liebermann, I think most of the other fence sitters are genuine fence sitters. If Democrats are in the majority, they can and will be swayed to vote with the Majority.

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put up a Lieberman or Landreau or Miller or Feinstein I have to hold my nose and look at the re:puke:. It is essential that we insist on some standards.

"even a bad Democratic congresscritter is better than a Repuke"

That's a nice partisan sentiment, it sounds steadfast and determined. BUT, that is the thinking that has gotten us into this mess.

The radical Republicans are very good about demanding and imposing party loyalty. So, 2500 U.S. troops are dead in Iraq because they insist that all registered party members believe "even a bad Republican congresscritter is better than a 'liberal' Dem" ....

Electing pro-corporate, pro-war, anti-labor Democrats will not make this a better country. Electing wimpy, opportunistic, risk-averse Democrats just validates what Bush and the radical Republicans are advocating: that America is ultra-conservative.

Electing and re-electing Democrats who are enablers of the Bush agenda is not what is best for America.

Before the 2006 campaigns get into high gear -- NOW is the time to keep the pressure on Democratic candidates to support withdrawal from Iraq, support an impeachment inquiry, be against drilling in ANWR, support universal health insurance, support repeal of the Bush tax give-aways to the ruling elite, and most important, support public finance of federal elections.

It is bad politics to give any candidates a blank check on principles just because of their party affiliation.

i live in AZ and thought McCain was an OK guy even though I didn't agree with all his positions up til 2004

look at McCain now

just saying.....

my energy...ALL of it, is going toward ousting repugs, NOT Dems.

Our biggest challenge is to get corp control out of the Democratic Party.

It is in corporate interests to maintain a fascist state. Corporate interests are sociopathic, undemocratic, and completely self-serving. We will not be able to reclaim our country if we do not remove them from our government.

The first order of business to win back the Country is to eliminate corp control of the Democratic Party. It does no good to elect Democrats that are controlled by the same corp that control the Republicans.

We need folks who will stand up and be heard when its not politically safe for them to do so. Reid, Boxer and others are great examples of those types. While we may not always agree with their viewpoint, we need people who will oppose the status quo and represent THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED THEM, not their careers.

And when primary season comes around, we should do it!

Hmm... I wonder who voted for these wishy washy people in the first place? Was it Republicans... or was it US?

Right now our overriding concern is getting a majority in the House and Senate - even if it means going with a majority "you have and not the one you wish you had." Every Dem counts right now, no matter their lack of credentials in your ideology battle. After securing the ability to put some checks and balances back into the government then you can tackle any and all candidates that do not meet the "true blue" Democratic standards.

We need every Dem politician available to take back the House and Senate before we start shooting ourselves in the foot again. Do I like Leiberman or crazy about Biden? No. Do I wish Hillary, Kerry and many others had voted against Chucklenuts' Wild Adventure? Yep. But right now I want to go from a toothless pussy cat to a roaring tiger and it will take every damn Dem we can muster up.

Dems out on a Democratic board with only 66 posts to your name. I'm not calling you a freeper or anything but there are some who would look at your assertions with a jaded eye and question your intentions. Come on, vote out Dems? You are kidding, right?

But honestly, IMHO the only chance of getting impeachment moved forward is to get some more progressive Dems in office. I guess my rant isn't so much against the Dems in office already as it is about getting more progressives in there. Sorry if I stepped on any toes there :spank:

to examine our party and make it stronger. We need strong Democrats in office that will aggressively stand up for democracy. Otherwise we will end up in fascist state.

re:puke:s, what is the difference. How many of the DINO's have advocated impeachment? None. If they won't support the will of the sheeple the letter behind their name is just a corporate logo.

The majority party appoints the chairs of all the committees and bills have to get out of committee before the entire body votes on them. It's much easier for the majority party to set the agenda and kill bills. That's why we need the DINOs, regardless of how they ultimately vote.

We were able to accomplish a LOT this last month in the MINORITY; we'll have much more success with a majority, even with the DINOs.

the party, they're in it for their sponsors and themselves. Furthermore, they are the poltiwhores that will be appointed to those committees/chairmanships and stop any attempts at reform. This is not new, this is exactly what happened before and it allowed a criminal cabal to gain power. Your us vs. them strategy will only result in more of the same. We must have real advocates of change to make a difference, otherwise we'll just suffer under the laws the current regime has enacted forever.

If we don't insist that our representatives stand for Democratic values, are we any better than the Republicans. "Wait until we are in power, then we can worry about our values", doesn't sound Democratic. The question is, do you give up your values to win? The Democratic Party is our only hope, but we must insist on maintaining our values and shrugging corp control.

On one hand, we need to take back Congress, period. No one of us is going to like all of the candidates. That's OK, we're a representative democratic republic, and they won't all be representing you or I. We need to have Democrats that will win in each state.

On the other hand, is it too much to ask that we have some quality control on who is put forth in the first fucking place? I am so sick of voting for the lesser of two evils. In fact, I don't think I've voted FOR a candidate since I turned 18 - I've always been voting AGAINST the other asshole. What in the hell is so difficult about putting up an honest guy with progressive values and then BACKING him rather than assassinating him along with the republican smear machine?

Either way, we have to get back Congress, and we have to remove corporate interests from our government.

be so nice to vote strictly by Party, makes it much easier. The momentum toward tyranny needs to be stopped. It won't happen without STRONG democratic representatives. I think the lack of outrage by the Democrats in 2004 lost the election. After four years of Bushcorp atrocities including preemptive war and torture, there was very little outrage by the democrats. I think this made many of the fence sitters to stay with Bushcorp.

Biden is a tool of the credit card companies. No friend of the working class there.

Lieberman needs no explanation.

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:hi:

Give me a Democratic majority in 2006.

So, no. :thumbsdown:

I would very much like to see Lieberman out of office. Yes, I know he is a liberal on many domestic issues and yes, I know he is popular in his home state, but Connecticut should have a much more thoroughly progressive Senator than Lieberman. I tolerate moderate Democrats like Landrieu, Nelson, etc. because they're from the South and have to be more conservative to survive politically.

That being said, my number one priority right now is getting Republicans out of office. Once we have a majority in congress again, then we can clean house.

I agree with the majority of posts here in that there are tons
of endangered repubs in blue states and we must not shred what little unity and power we have right now. I deplore the opportunistic
Lieberman but we need to force investigations in congress and real serious oversight and unless we go after the treasonous repubs for their
failure we won't get there. As Arianna says 'When the house is burning
down, you don't do remodeling.' Welcome to DU.
Our country is in real danger and we must be less fragmented in our approach.

I'm in complete agreement with you and just edited my post to clarify my position.

I know he's no longer in Congress, but he is technically a Democrat, as is Lieberman (who is still in office). We need to stop being so preoccupied with the (D) after their name, and look at what they're actually standing for! A Dem disguised as a goper is no better than a goper.

i dont think so. i will look at today though, and how over the prechristmas break democrats kicked republicans asses

That guy spends so much time up Hannity's ass, it's not even funny.

a dem. this is pathitic

on edit: that is who the fuck cares

When 2 Democrats are seeking the same office?

If so, I would rally behind the person I feel would do their best for the people.

We need to nominate the more progressive candidates, then work on getting them into office.

I'll help out any Dem who runs.

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Just run names thru and see what their record has been over the past 5 years...and what groups they tend to support and who supports them.