So, what needs to happen now with abortion?

Okay, it's legal. But are there anymore problems? Does access need to be made easier?
It seems it's always under attack, but besides that are there any other areas of it that need to be improved?

schools) and teach about birth control (besides abstinence and rhythm method) and provide birth control and access to good gynelogical care and services to all women, provide better daycare for children and especially for single mom's - and maybe we could actually reduce unwanted pregnancies and thus reduce abortions.

That's my suggestions for improvements....

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of their reproductive rights by big brother government and perceiving it like the Schiavo issue. The Republican government wants to be the big bro in personal life decisions. People are being repelled by it.

it's hard to imagine any issue galvanizing people, but this issue is intense and personal like no other, so maybe we're on the cusp of some real mass consciousness-raising.

Like any invasive medical procedure, abortion is not to be undertaken lightly, but the trouble with saying that abortion should be 'legal but rare' is to imply to many people that abortion is something shameful or immoral. It is not, and if we start to think that it is (even a tiny little bit), we are doomed to lose the battle.

You are right.

supremes in a few years and they will reject it. There are no provisions for incest and rape, which make it unconstitutional to the extreme. No one, even on that side with half a wit believes this is the case. Wait for one coming with all the fine tuning necessary. Also, watch the Repug party explode with people leaving it because this is an extremist position and most repugs won't agree. WAtch their fund raising go down as the one-issue morons leave the political arena.

Their ability to get people to change their minds is very well-known.
The NSA spying may have something to do with it.

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A overhwelming majority of Americans are pro-choice, and have been for years.
That does not matter. It never did.
Congress and the President have only acted to try to make abortion harder to get.
Only the Supreme Court safegards reproductive freedom, for now.

We need to support the right to choose, on moral grounds.
It is, unfortunately, a loser for us electorally, despite majority support for it.
The anti's are all single-issue voters -- every single one of them. They don't care
what the Repubs do to them as long as they oppose abortion. Most of the pro-choice
voters can be scared into voting Repub by fears of crime, terrorism, or whatever.

The Republicans know this, which is why they are pushing abortion bans so aggressively.
It has already been reported that it will be the centerpiece of their electoral strategy.

Quite a few Dems know this also, and just want the issue to go away. Some of them
consider unconditional surrender on reproductive freedom to be an acceptable price.
You can tell them by the "Yes" votes on certain key cloture motions.
Caving in on abortion is an even worse loser electorally, because the antis will
still vote Republican, and a lot of disgusted pro-choice voters may stay home.
They don't seem to understand this.

We have to fight them on this. Both morally and tactically, we have no choice.
It will cost us a lot of votes and we have to be prepared for that.
We will need to make that up somewhere else, somehow.