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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:17 PM Original message |
Men's-Rights Group Eyes Child Support Stay - Roe v. Wade for Men |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. wow |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
185. Hah. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. The man can make the decision |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Exactly, it's called a CONDOM |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
189. EXACTLY!!!! |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
82. Of course so could the woman |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #82 |
171. WRONG. If she doesn't want to have a child, she should use |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-12-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #171 |
233. Have you ever read the warning labels for the pill? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
141. So can the woman. |
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Memory Container (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 09:04 AM Response to Reply #141 |
151. Thanks, I agree with this. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #151 |
211. Entrapped? OMFG. He was responsible for his own sperm. Period. |
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Memory Container (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 06:57 AM Response to Reply #211 |
224. So it's okay for me to tell a man |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #224 |
227. If a man was stupid enough to believe you then that's his problem and yes |
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Memory Container (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-11-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #227 |
229. I get what you're saying, but |
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Memory Container (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-12-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #227 |
232. Take this; |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #141 |
203. I think you see the ethical conundrum. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 07:44 AM Response to Reply #203 |
225. Yes. |
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Saphire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. your choice is a condom or not. |
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The Pain (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. oh this is gold |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. You're joking right? That was supposed to be a joke, right? |
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The Pain (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. ok |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I'm not laughing, I was just trying to give you an easy out.. |
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The Pain (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. This is how I see it |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:59 PM Original message |
Dupe.. n/t |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Well, I think you have it all wrong.. |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. Suffering seems to be the human condition... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
86. Public child supprt pools of money |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
216. It's utterly nauseating and at once revealing how you absolve male |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #216 |
217. I don't know |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. Wow, that's rich. The GAY GUY wants to insert his religious and moral |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
84. I sympathize The Pain, but |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #84 |
173. How many additional children in America will live in poverty? (edited) |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
158. So if you give me a cheeseburger, and I eat it... |
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morgan2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. yes the same way a women has the choice |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
87. "...the woman should have to bring a child to term." |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
208. No one on either side has the right to dump a kid when its born |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
83. I think both a man and woman should |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. But once there is a child in the picture, you have to consider the child's |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
101. I believe a child deserves support |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Support is more than financial. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. I don't agree with that either |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. I disagree. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. A child has a right to know his parents? Do you not believe in |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:20 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Yes. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. I believe you are |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. No, I'm not violating someone's right to privacy. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. So if parents have a right to surrender a child, why wouldn't a |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Because surrendering the child for adoption requires |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Sure, as is. But why shouldn't one parent have the right to surrender |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Because the two situations (abortion vs. birth) |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Again, BOTH parents can choose to surrender the child completely, |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Because it dumps that share of the responsibility on the other parent |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #124 |
147. But as these posts keep reminding us, "Life isn't fair". |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #147 |
153. Life is unfair in many many ways |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 09:58 AM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Biological realities cannnot be changed, but our laws can be. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #155 |
156. our laws can't change biological realities |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. It doesn't need to. Laws allow us to handle those realities in ways we |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #159 |
161. That would be at the expense of the child. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:21 AM Response to Reply #161 |
162. But life, as I keep hearing in this thread, isn't faiir. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. There's no way to do that without |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #165 |
168. I think others have posted proposals that might address just that - |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #168 |
170. No but the child does have a right to be supported |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #162 |
191. Why? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #191 |
204. Why should there be legal equality? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 01:52 AM Response to Reply #204 |
219. Yes, the law is supposed to be fair. |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #161 |
177. Are you listening to yourself? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #177 |
181. It isn't arbitrary, and child support is not a "paycheck" |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #120 |
210. because its a coward's way out. you HAVE a responsibility intended |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #210 |
226. Now apply your same argument to abortion and see where it gets you. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #226 |
228. abortion is invasive physically. the only thing a dead beat dad loses |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
209. No relationship. Just send the check. But don't come whining |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Google "parthogenesis" |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Even protected consensual sex carries the risk of pregnancy. |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:46 PM Original message |
When you say 'no one' does that mean only men? |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
62. You raise a great question |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Thanks, I wasn't sure. Maybe if the anti-abortion law had written |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
88. But there won't be any more babies born anyway |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
76. Other legal issues of interest |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Maybe it is time men demanded better birth control products |
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democrat_patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
197. I am waiting for the 'male' pill. One that stops the production |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Nonsense. |
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MrMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. Why should that responsibility be put on the father, but not the mother? |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. Since when? |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
85. No. |
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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
144. And I know a woman who had three planned kids with her spouse |
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democrat_patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #144 |
198. The proposed law isn't worded that way. There is a small |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #198 |
212. so we reduce children down to a financial transaction just like |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
152. HEY! Nice Tombstone! Looks Good On Ya! |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Absolutely! It's called personal responsibility. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
92. "Your choice is birth control pill or not" - isn't that the very same |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. I know of a way |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. Doesn't curtail your options... |
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buckettgirl (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. you make many valid points |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
164. Beyond the snip |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #164 |
187. A few months ago |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. So if abortion is outlawed and the woman who didn't want the baby... |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. I agree with this point... |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. It will not be popular here... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. If men want to avoid financial responsibility, they shouldn't have sex |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. It takes two....no? |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. It takes two yes. |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I didn't say that. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. You didn't say what? |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. "I was reply to your "if they don't want financial responsibility...." |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Isn't post # 6 your post? Who is "they" |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I thought you were referring to someone else's post. |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Sorry... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Yes it is a tough one |
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stevekatz (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. well |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Ooops sorry....thought you were replying to me. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Abortion is legal in this country |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. So is sex. |
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stevekatz (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. exactly right (nt) |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. It does seem like |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Why, how Right-Wing of you. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. I fixed my post |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. Still has the same meaning. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Pregnancy and financial responsibility are two different things |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Look up the stats, abstinence education does not work anywhere it's |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
90. Well, that's pretty one way about it..... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Yeah I see the point... |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. There is also the other side of that coin... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Of course... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
95. I really don't like the term "deadbeat dads" |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. Unfortunately, being one cent short by one second makes one a |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #106 |
121. That is so not true |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #121 |
132. I'm pretty familiar with most states law. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #121 |
215. at best they do so slowly |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #95 |
213. I remember when Glenn Yarborough the folk singer was one step |
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Saphire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
56. this statement really gets me about your post... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Exactly my point in other posts... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 03:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
220. I remember a man who was put in jail and released on the proviso |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. No, they don't have a point. |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. So you don't think that a man should be given the right to a choice |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
96. So I take it you don't believe in accidents? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. so the child loses. It's a fight between mom and dad but the child |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
97. I don't agree with that |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 07:59 AM Response to Reply #97 |
142. If there's a child |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #142 |
154. I don't agree with that either |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #154 |
157. If both parents willingly give up parenthood |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
105. If the baby is born and no one wants to support it, it can be surrendered |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 08:01 AM Response to Reply #105 |
143. That's your solution? |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
91. For more than three years I have been posting my proposal on DU |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. How many names have you been called for that proposal? lol |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. I used to count how many posts before someone |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Nobody said you had mommy issues? Or a small penis? |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:32 PM Original message |
Don't go exacerbating |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #104 |
114. Don't go exacerbating |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:34 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. You can say that again. |
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Ariana Celeste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #91 |
125. I agree. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #91 |
200. Sounds good to me. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
199. I agree. |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
16. It can be some of the most expensive sex a Man |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
98. I only have one kid and he was wrapped |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #98 |
192. I hope your kid never stumbles upon your posts. n/t |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #192 |
207. Why? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
18. Thus, the wisdom of not fucking strangers, or even partners you aren't |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. You Know, being a man, I would never advocate this |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
37. Funny (not really) story |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Yes, that's true, but you could say 'a woman's choice is before she has |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. Realities of biology |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
214. agreed. I have a friend with three kids from three men. she doesn't |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #214 |
218. I respect the choice your brother made too |
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Outer_Limit (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
206. Thats an excellent point |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
99. Your step-son's been having sex with |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
45. Why aren't these men screaming for male injectable birth control? |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
183. THANK YOU!!! (But...) |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #183 |
196. Agreed |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #183 |
201. I agree with you completely. |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
46. There's a great way to avoid being 'trapped' into paying child support |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #46 |
163. Just wanted to say |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
50. I presume that this "choice" would be contingent on abortion rights? |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. I would hope so. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
100. Yes |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
52. GMAFB |
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buckettgirl (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. men need to stop thinking with their dicks |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Aww... poor hapless women... always having to... |
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buckettgirl (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. you really don't like women, do you? |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. I like women, I like fairness and... |
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buckettgirl (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
148. alright, alright |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
75. Should of thought of that before you made the baby |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Ain't it the truth. nt. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
94. Don't want a baby, don't do the deed? Are you Randall Terry? |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
55. He has a choice - he can keep it in his pants |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. She has a choice - she can keep it in his pants. nt. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
65. Child Support Reform is Needed... |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
122. Ding ding ding! We have a winner. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #65 |
176. Not really |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #176 |
186. I disagree... |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
70. I rate this a 3 Popcorn Bucket thread. |
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free_spirit82 (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
80. Having a pregnancy is NOT the same as having a baby.... |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
81. Wow...I disappear for a few hours and the irony thickens... |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
110. The real solution: It's time to give men the vote. |
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Ariana Celeste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
123. I agree to a point. |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Interesting |
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Ariana Celeste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:29 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. I think that's absolutely |
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foreverdem (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 08:26 AM Response to Reply #131 |
145. I needed my husband's consent for a medically needed hysteretomy |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #131 |
150. Bravo. Excellent posts. Thank you. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 03:50 AM Response to Reply #150 |
221. I guess these posts hit it on the head for me. The society we |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #126 |
133. Don't they need a spouse's sig. for any surgery? |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 12:02 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. Nope |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 12:06 AM Response to Reply #133 |
137. One more thing |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 07:23 AM Response to Reply #126 |
138. Wow. What state? In Michigan no permission from spouse is |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. Thank You for being honest. |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:22 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. You're welcome |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. My situation |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #123 |
167. It's not about you, though. It's about the child. |
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Ariana Celeste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #167 |
188. Sometimes it's better not |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 03:55 AM Response to Reply #188 |
222. Agreed that sometimes not having them around is good but their |
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KitchenWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
129. Being an adult means taking responsibility for any and all |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. ... |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #129 |
174. Concise, to the point, and interestingly, applicable to both sides |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-08-06 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
130. Bogus Lawsuit |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
139. Kind of a day late and a dollar short at this point. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
140. Pay to play. |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
146. Fair does not mean equal. Besides, it's about the child. |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #146 |
169. Well said. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
149. Having sex means taking on some responsibility... |
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bubba j (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #149 |
160. Entirely too full of common sense |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
166. Some Thoughts |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #166 |
175. Except that all that is really irrelevant to a discussion |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. No, it's not |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #178 |
184. That has been the law almost since time began |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
172. Well it's been a while since I've seen so many hateful posts directed |
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bubba j (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #172 |
179. Hate - an equal opportunity |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
180. If you make a baby, you should support it. |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
182. This is sick. n/t |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
190. Fine. Just give him the child. Let him try THAT "child support". |
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bubba j (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #190 |
193. Thank you VFM |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
194. Deleted message |
Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
195. Fuck this shit |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
202. I don't know if I agree completely with this proposal, |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-09-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
205. Women make the decision because pregnancy happens in her body |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-10-06 03:59 AM Response to Reply #205 |
223. If men could get pregnant, none of the issues discussed on this |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-11-06 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
230. One thing I have learned on DU, never piss off the femenists |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-11-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #230 |
231. Don't assume all feminists have the same position. |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-12-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #230 |
235. ...or the misogynists... |
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234. Unreal... |
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