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soldier101 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:13 PM
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Black Like GOP
This year, Democrats may lose their iron grip on the black vote. About 90 percent of black Americans vote Democrat, rain or shine. But a growing sense that Democrats take them for granted — plus several attractive, high-level black Republican candidates who will fight for these votes — could make November 2006 and 2008 fascinating.

For starters, President Bush's black support grew from 9 percent in 2000 to 11 percent in 2004. That is no landslide, but Bush's black vote improved 22 percent despite his being vilified by the media and Democrats for four long years.

In Ohio, President Bush's support among blacks grew from 9 percent in 2000 to 16 percent in 2004. Given his tight race against Senator John Kerry (D., Mass.), blacks essentially handed President Bush Ohio, and thus a second term. These generally socially conservative blacks showed up to vote to ban gay marriage. Enough voters also supported Bush, a same-sex marriage opponent, to secure him the Buckeye State.


http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.p?ref=/murdock/murdock200603091234.asp

Wow if things are so rosy, why is there less than 10% support for the purbes?
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:15 PM
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1. After KATRINA??? Give me a freakin' break!!!
:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:17 PM
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5. Yeah you rite!
:rofl:



:popcorn:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:15 PM
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2. LOL!
Welcome to DU! :hi:



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soldier101 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:18 PM
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8. I think I've found a home here.
:bounce: :kick: :grouphug: :-)
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:22 PM
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16. Yeah you have. Welcome to DU.
Where all the good progressives meet to keep from GOING INSANE, these days.
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soldier101 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:36 PM
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28. My WWI vet granpa was a Dem
My WWII father, and uncles are (were) Dems.

My Korean vet Dad is a Dem

My Veitnam vet Dad is a Dem.

All my extended family are Dems.

After being if both Afganistan and Iraq, what else could I be but Dem.

:kick:
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:16 PM
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36. You're a Dem--and you're an American.
Too bad the other side seems to think they can't go hand-in-hand.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:26 PM
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38. All the men in my family have served, most in war time. And all are Dems!
Welcome to DU!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:26 PM
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21. Sure, but it will get very hot in this kitchen very soon.
:D


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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:39 PM
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29. Hey 101!!!! thanks for my reply on the "man bashing" thread!!
Glad you're here - and I LOVED this post :hi::bounce::rofl:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:45 PM
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34. Welcome aboard soldier! Not many new posters get such a welcome.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:15 PM
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3. Dream on. n/t
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:17 PM
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4. Ick! the National Review!
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 10:18 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
I clicked on it! How do I get the stink off??

edit: what the hell is a purbes? is it like a pube? :puke:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:19 PM
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11. Bathe in vinegar.
:D



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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:22 PM
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17. I'll smell like pickles if I add a little dill...
I like pickles! (disclaimer: not the kind married to the shrub)
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:17 PM
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6. Consider the source: the National Review.
A major source of white-collar wingnuttery. They are apparently using a lot of recreational chemicals at TNR.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:17 PM
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7. Welcome to DU!
Wow. The National Review. Hm.
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soldier101 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:21 PM
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14. 1st rule of land combat,
Know they enemy.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:18 PM
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9. Yes - * and the neocons have shown themselves to be paragons
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 10:19 PM by bluerum
of tolerance and diversity.

I would rather be taken for granted than left to drown, starve and die of thirst in a flooded attic.

This is such friggin BS.

I don't see how anyone, much less a black man can vote for the republicans after what happened on the Gulf Coast last year.

edit for sp. I am so pissed after reading that,,,,,,,
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:21 PM
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15. I think Murdock wants to work in the big house
not realizing the masta will still just see a field hand.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:19 PM
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10. Yeah Right......
I'm a black woman but I'm not retarded nor insane and frankly, I don't know too many black people who can speak of bush et all without turning their stomachs and turning the air blue.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:20 PM
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12. Ummm.....whatever gain he might of had....
with blacks which wasn't much...* lost it with Katrina.

The votes were stolen or not counted in Ohio....so thats false.

They think because it's in print it's fact....Black America is not stupid and the repugs can talk themselves blue in the face.....

"George Bush don't like Black People" as my man Kanya so eloquently put it.

Welcome to DU:hi:
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Dem Agog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:21 PM
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13. Any black person who votes Republican...
Is a sicko...

After watching * and Company murder people in New Orleans, they're nuts.

I know I'd never vote for someone who wanted to commit genocide against my race. Black people (and women for that matter) who vote Republican are the kinds of people who end up being beaten wives and abused spouses, just taking it because they're too stupid or sick to know better.
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BlakeB Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:26 PM
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22. Im on a radio show with a black republican.
It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. He actually thinks the Democratic party is the cause of black America's problems. I mean this guy is one indoctrinated Republican... it makes me sick.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:54 PM
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42. What does he say about NO? eom
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:28 PM
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25. Any black person voting republican is like a chicken voting for
Colonel Sanders. :-)
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:53 PM
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41. Turkies voting for thanksgiving. eom
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:40 AM
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45. True. And cool name! n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:23 PM
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A typical copy and paste article
Change a few of the dates and names around and the same article could have been written during the 1980's or 1990's. You always see these types of articles popping up in publications every now and then, especially in conservative magazines, but it never materializes.

I have never personally, actually met a black conservative.
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soldier101 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:28 PM
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24. Black conservative, oxymoron. Name them on one hand
Clarance Thomas, Condi Rice, Thomas Sowel, Walter Williams uhhh uhhhh uhhhh uhhhh uhhhh. Need help here.

:think: :silly: :shrug:
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:23 PM
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18. I think voting African-Americans are smarter than that. n/t
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sweetladybug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:25 PM
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19. soldier101, I don't think blacks essentially handed President Bush Ohio,
and thus a second term. We can thank Diebolt Voting Machines for that.
The national review is full of crap!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:26 PM
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20. National Review?
They wish!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:29 PM
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26. Way'at cat_girl25!
I don't know ANY African Americans in my hood reading the Numbnuts Review! ... or any white folks either. You? :eyes:

:D


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:39 PM
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30. Hiya Swamp!
Well there is this one brother that is a republican that probably reads National Review. Everytime I see him, we are debating his politics. I don't usually waste my time with folks like that but we are friends so I have to look over him.

:hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:42 PM
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33. I got a new nickname for him:
"Colonel Sanders!" :rofl:

He's guarding the coop for his masters! :D
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:28 PM
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23. They've been desperately pushing this meme for years now
Any infinitesimal gain that Dubya and the GOP might have made with the black community (or, more specifically, with the black evangelical community) has been washed away by the waters of Katrina. At last check, Dubya's approval rating among African Americans was 2%...with a 3% margin of error.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:30 PM
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27. They use homophobia and Jesus
I'm from Ohio, and the Republicans here use Jesus and homophobia to court the black vote. And in some places, IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING!!!!!!

According to an African-American I know, he voted for * because he was a Christian man and would have a constitutional amendment against gay marriage. THE GUY TOLD ME THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON HE VOTED FOR *!!!!

Oh, yeah, and who actually counts votes in Ohio anyway?

:eyes:

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:23 AM
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43. Hi ladym55!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:40 PM
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31. The better question should be do the pugs like blacks? It sounds
odd to me that bigotry should be a unifying measure between these two groups.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:41 PM
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32. Alan Keyes for GOP Nominee!
:bounce:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:48 PM
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35. Great Molly Ivins quote: (approximate)
"I always like speaking to a black audience because I don't have to explaing George Bush to them"

Heard that on C-SPAN.

--IMM
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:28 PM
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40. Molly Ivins is incredible
Luv her!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:22 PM
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37. There's no issue with this, imo....
it's easy to improve one's numbers by 22% when they're so low to begin with... to go from 100 to 122, you just need 22 more votes. going from 1 million to 1.2 million is substantially harder.... (in mathy terms: percentages don't increase linearly with the actual numbers)

and the vast majority of black folks probably won't even be able to HEAR anything a republican is saying - kanye west's "george bush doesn't care about black people" will be ringing in their ears. and rightly so.

and then there's the humungous black middle class that white folks often don't realize exists...

I don't see anything but more solidified support from black folks in elections for the forseeable future...
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:27 PM
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39. I see that after Buckley got a bit of oxygen in the system . . .
Good ol' NRO is back on the nitrous oxide once again!

:eyes:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:27 AM
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44. Crazy Bill Buckley's rag.....
During the height of blowjobmania, Crazy Bill wrote a column explaining that black voters supported Clinton because African natives followed their chief....(oh yes, he did.)

Buckley spent the late 1960s telling his ignorant readers that "responsible Negroes" would be repulsed by the civil rights movement, which he and his "writers" fought bitterly.
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