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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:12 AM
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What are the chances of the "Diebold's not affecting 06 elections
A lot - Some chance or we can count it!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:15 AM
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1. All this talk about Diebold.
Can't Dems hack???

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:16 AM
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3. tru dat
we've got some of the source code already.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:16 AM
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2. I don't know they affected anything yet...
so how can I assess future probabilities?
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:18 AM
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4. ZERO!
It's is too tough to control the outcome of almost 400 elections with HAVA. All they need to do is screw around with enough of them to keep control of the Congress
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:26 AM
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5. So where are our
hackers. Certainly if a system can be hacked then opposition hackers can hack in to see if there is any hacking going on.

MAYBE and election can be hacked. MAYBE 2004 was. BUT if it is that easy to get into the system for the Repugs then it seems like Dems could at least do something other than exit polling to prove it.

Hack the hackers.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:43 AM
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8. Diebold &
ES & S are republican companies/supporters/donors. The source code is private and they sure will not tell us.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:46 AM
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10. If a hacker can hack
into a DOD computer then they can hack into Diebold. I don't care who owns it. Hackers don't need to be told source code. That's why they are hackers.

Mz Pip
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:13 AM
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13. The question is
counting of the votes. IF they can change votes (remotely??)we are doomed

If you missed this, please read
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001838.htm
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:19 AM
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16. A good hacker can block that.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:25 AM
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17. You mean we have a liberal hacker
available? Why didn't they prevent the theft of the 2004 election?
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:30 AM
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18. Not as far as I know. But why? IT'S ILLEGAL!!
:popcorn: :rofl:
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:37 AM
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19. Different than republicans
I don't want to distort the actual votes..I just want the election to be right...and if we have to do something ILLEGAL to get it right, so be it.

When your in Rome, do as the Romans do!
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:50 AM
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12. find a job opening, apply there...once you get in, get access to the code
there is a process
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:36 AM
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6. -nil- 0
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:43 AM
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7. how much are the voting machines?
It might be worth buying one to dissect it and see how you can infiltrate it.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:45 AM
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9. Been done...it's not pretty
we have seen the last honest election until someone demands paper trail
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:48 AM
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11. About As Likely As a Fair Election Under:
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thutmosis Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:13 AM
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14. Election Fraud
A very slim chance that Diebold voting machines will just count the total and give the real total.

See this to take a load of what is happening today

http://www.iwilltryit.com//fixed1.htm

For Progressives and Democrats the Real Issues are ELECTION FRAUD and a Get Out The Vote at the precinct level year round permanent operation. Back to basics Election 101.

Those are the issues if Progressives want to win elections.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:22 AM
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21. Hi thutmosis!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:17 AM
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15. We need to take these machines to court...or the Boston Harbor.
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 01:49 AM by Dunvegan
Either will do.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:56 AM
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20. The whole vote/election fixing conspiracy lacks credibility, unless...
the Republicans actually run Bill Frist for president. That would finally convince me. There is no way that sick fuck can win an honest election and the republicans know it. They wouldn't run him unless the fix was in.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:00 AM
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22. If Bush can win with Diebold's - Frist will have no problem whatsoever
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