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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:49 AM
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Bush Wants a Civil War in Iraq (conjecture)?

What if the plan is for the U.S. to pick up the oil-rich pieces after the factions decimate each other?


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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:54 AM
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1. That would be junior's wildest dream.
Ain't gonna happen!
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:00 AM
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3. Every person I know who is either Persian, Turkish, Arabic, Kurdish...
etc. says Bush is there for oil.

Why can't 35 percent of those polled in US understand that?

Or maybe many of those 35% realize and don't care.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:57 AM
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2. And who would they blame in the end
Maybe China and Russsia haha.
What a dumbass strategy if this is the case
Facts is the winner will be China and Russia
They get the whole cake
Without even lifting a finger.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:12 AM
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5. Incorrect...

Since we're already there -- we would be first to pick up the pieces.


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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:55 PM
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13. Incorrect
You get to pay for breaking it into pieces.
Logic dictates that frustrated people will blame someone
US takes that roles
This damn mess not over
Objectives by your moronic president might be the profit
But I dont think it is possible
In fact business cannot operate in a choatic environment like this
The cost overun will just be too high
This is a fool dream
US will never profit from Iraq
No using guns and bombs and pissing of the people in Iraq
It is already too late
Course of action already done
What the future hold is very clear

However one can always live in a bubble
One can always beleive that the Iraqies loves US
I mean what so damn bad about getting your children shots by US troops
I mean one can still love the killer right
HAHA sure US can get its way keep killing
Until noone left.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:14 PM
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14. He's not "my' moronic president...

...I didn't vote for the pathetic puppet.

But on second thought, you're probably right; if Bush's plan was to create havoc in Iraq for the oil -- he'll likely never be able to get his hands on it for a number of reasons.




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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:03 AM
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4. It's not necessarily about oil anymore. It's about war profiteering
The writing is on the wall. Even if we had control of Iraq's oil resources, it doesn't change the fact that worldwide demand continues to increase, yet the supply of oil is a finite resource. It's running out eventually.

What I see happening more than ever now is a conflict by which people in the defense establishment are making untold billions off of backs of American taxpayers. If there is civil war, that's one more reason to prolong the US occupation of Iraq, and that means more bullets, more bombs, more missiles, more gunships, more warplanes, and ultimately more body bags. If you're some arms manufacturer, you're making a killing...literally.

"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."

-- Gen. Smedley Butler
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:24 AM
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6. I actually believe the bombing of the Golden Dome etc, were
orchestrated by the US. It would give us an easy (not really, 2300 KIA and how many wounded?) exit strategy. I think the Iraqi's figured it out, there was a thread on Sadr (sp?) against another attempt to start a Civil War.

That's why, the Iraqi leaders are trying to contain the festering desire for revenge among their people. If you have been to an eye for eye country, it really is extraordinary that a FULL blown Civil War has not occurred to this date!
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:31 AM
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7. This has...

...crossed my mind also. When extreme acts are undertaken, the first question should always be, "Who has the most to gain."


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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:00 AM
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8. Too funny, that our admin. doesn't get that there are intelligent
people from around the world. Hell, we educated most of them, and they have their own National
Interests to protect. The world has changed, and we have put ourselves on a destructive path by our out sourcing of tech., well, maybe it's time we (because of our arrogance, paid the piper).

This is not for the average high tech. worker, like I used to be, but OUR gov't sold US out!

Those who are seeking techno break thru's can do such in their own co's, because the Multi Nationals (formerly known as US co's) have shown they are loyal to money alone!

I do have faith, they will also decline as the Economies of Scale have shown their lack of service, it just sucks living through their incompetencies, leading to their demise.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:44 AM
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10. Look at the record - This admin has never played to the world at large...
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 06:45 AM by Peter Frank

Its sole goal has been to gain control of Americans.

Only problem is that true Americans refuse to be talked down to.


edit - punct




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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:21 AM
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9. Well the institution of the Negroponte Death Squads certainly suggests it
I don't believe that's conjecture at all.

"Let them kill each other," is the Bushevik solution to a lot of things.

It may well even be his Final Solution for Liberals. How longuntil we see Negroponte Death Squads in Imperial Amerika?

No more than 100 years, IMHO, probably less than 50.

It could start tomorrow, though. Don't kid yourself.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:52 AM
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11. A small problem with that scenerio.
Iran is pumping a $Billion into Iraq. Shia are alligned with Iran. Iran stand sto gain if the Sunnis are decimated. Kurds are making oil deals with Europe. An Iraqi Civil War benefits the US CIC bit it doesn't bode well for the Rethugs in Congress. Of course, it is more complicated because the oil that is kept off the market now benefits the Multi-Natl. Oil Corps, so they rake in for the short term. The more I think about this the more complicated it gets.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 07:05 AM
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12. Some might say that what you're saying is extremist...

...but I certainly do not.

The extreme right wing is now in control of our government. It not only controls the trifecta of the executive, legislative, & judiciary -- it also controls the mainstream press.

When is the last (or first) time you heard an open discussion in the mainstream press about 911 evidence?

The fact that this subject is "verboten" is proof enough that that authentic American democracy must be dis-engorged from the jaws of the pretenders in chief.


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