VIDEO- Was this PUNK giving Feingold the Finger?

sure was..

If it was intentional, the guy certainly wasn't trying to be obvious.
He's either well-practiced at surreptitiously flipping the bird, or he was tired and not paying attention to his actions.

I vote well-practiced. Keith Olberman should get this.

Who is that punk, anyway?

He looked around to see who might see him.

Does anyone know who he is? I suppose he is either an aid or Senate employee, either way, he should be dismissed for such action.

so it WAS on purpose...please give this guy a one-way bus ticket home

unfuckingbelievable. And yet so very republican!

I'd bet.

:eyes:

omg what a fuck head! NO ONE does that unintentionally!!! :argh:

to make it by accident.

and let him and the Pukes who made sure he was on camera have it.

He'll get in trouble for it bringing more exposure to Feingold's cause. Idiot.

so, should I feel guilty that I flipped off Bush and his motorcade last week? It sure felt good. :evilgrin:

for sure

he'll have some fun with it. It may qualify for his "Worst Person in the World" segment.

I would email him but I'm at work right now. He could be one of the worst person of the world.

Plus,he wouldn't risk being banned from the chamber. It's a great place to be.:-)

Is he totally STUPID or WHAT???

We need to send this to MSM someway! Do they have it or not??

I was watching him for some time and he seemed irritated, but then I didn't know staffers sat back there like that!

If this hits the "big time" well WHOOOOOOHAAAAA!

What about Keith at Bloggerman???

I know quite a few people who take poses like that in meetings. To me it indicates boredom, but I doubt it's flipping the bird.

'Mind thyself' on the nation's stage.

asking who this arrogant person was, and if he was in fact giving Russ the finger "on live TV!"

I have a feeling this might have been one of Russ' aids, and if so, he should be given several kicks for stupidity!

... certainly looks like your prototypical Ferengi Republican. :)

If so, please provide a link. Thanks!

Not so easy to record when you're on the clock. That's why I ask.

You were there when we needed you.

:thumbsup:

The like of Cheney F*ck statement in the Senate! They are Sick!:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

fuck off.

Though I can't rule it out, from what I saw on video it looked like it was far more logical to be benign. THe man had no emotional reaction whatsoever, and the finger is angled anywhere near Russ. I myself when catch myself leaning on my hand like that all the time, and then after a while get self conscious thinking "I hope no one thinks I'm giving them the finger". But when I do it, I do it innocently and out of comfort and habit, not for anything vulgar.

I would say with 99% confidence this man was doing it innocently as well and wasn't giving anyone the finger.

Sorry :(

He's just frustrated. It's the bird.

time too, but it was just his thumb. I understand many will believe it was done with vulgar intent, and I can't blame them. I just know that when I watched the video for myself the vibe I got was that it was completely benign. As I said, the finger isn't even angled anywhere near Russ, so if it was with intent, why wouldn't you believe it was to whomever may have been sitting a few seats down to his left? I would think it was completely innocent. If some are to believe it wasn't, then they should also believe that it wasn't to Russ, but to someone off camera since the finger is no where nears pointed towards Russ.

I didn't think he was flipping anyone off. But this guy definitely was flipping somebody off.

else?

'Cause I'd be hard pressed to find reasons to believe the finger was angled anywhere near Russ. That's all I'm sayin.

When you're somewhere in public and don't really want anyone to notice you giving someone the finger, you point it upwards...like what this guy is doing. He's being a sneak.

But this is different. What you call 'benign' I call passive aggressive. He KNEW he was on camera. He flipped the finger as subtly as he could. Any negative facial expression would give it away. He did it right after Feingold mentioned 'to control the abuses of government' and then addressed Bush with 'Mr. President.'

This was the finger. No doubt this time.

He didn't have to go all Johnny Cash to get his point across to his buddies. But it's subtle enough that he can claim exactly what you are claiming. Mind games baby, mind games.

Looks like he's angled toward Feingold to me...:shrug:

No biggie though, to each their own! :)

it about 6 times before I made the decision to take it. It's directed right at the Senator from WI. :shrug:

But it's all a matter of perspective I guess. No biggie :)

He thinks he's being sly but it's the finger. Notice how the guy eyeballs Feingold towards the start of that clip. That's the face of a boy that's feeling guilty.

leaning his head on his hand from what I gather. Of course it is the gesture of the finger, I'm not debating that, I'm just saying I don't think there was intent behind it and that it isn't pointing anywhere near Russ, that's all. :)

:hi:

under the age of 60 that uses their middle finger in that manner. I mean, we had a biology teacher that use to point to stuff on the blackboard with his. He never understood why we giggled so.

But seriously, come on. That kid can't be more than 30 years old. You really think he doesn't know what he's doing?

This really isn't that important of an issue though. No real biggie if you believe he was flippin the bird and I believe he wasn't. :hi:

it's not that important. But it makes for great teevee. Brings attention to the Censure. I hope to see that finger on broadcast television soon. :)

Also, I find it very suspicious how he, all the sudden, perks up to rest his head???

Doesn't make sense unless he planned on doing this.

It was deliberate.

That seals it. That's proof. He actually LOOKED at the guy who had the floor. That's unheard of! That's the nail in his coffin, he was definitely flipping him off.

(sorry for the sarcasm, but I just found that argument really really funny :) )

Your own words:

"As I Watched It Didn't Seem To Point Anywhere Near Him!":rofl:

The fingers were attached to his head. Of course he isn't going to take his hand off his head to flip the guy off. That would defeat the whole purpose of his stealth flip-off. The guy clearly perks up, puts the bird on his face and glares over at Russ not once but twice.

the eyes.

I hope in the future you will be able to discern the difference. :rofl:

I never said he didn't look at him. You'd expect somebody in the chamber to every so often look at the guy actually speaking, wouldn't you? LOL

What I DID say, is that the FINGER itself doesn't angle anywhere near Russ. There is a thread now with an additional video that is supposed to make the OP's point further, but I think it is even more apparent and logical proof that this was nothing but innocent.

Just my opinion though, I'm just trying to spare some from the embarassment of passing this on, if it does come out without reasonable doubt that it was obviously innocent. (like if it turns out the guy was Russ's aide or something lol)

As they say, don't quit your day job, because you'll never make it reading body language.

Some people are just clueless about body language and you're obviously one of them. But hey, it's OK! :)

I happen to be very good at reading body language and it is amazing to me that you can't see this man is seething with resentment. He's not bored. He's angry, but he's trying to hide it.

I'm sure that tonight he's with some of his other juvenile 30-something repuke buddies, chortling about this at a DC Happy Hour.

The basic problem with republicans is they are unable to achieve emotional maturity. This actually is a somewhat important instance because it vividly shows how immature they can be.

Yes, this is a gesture that people often use in meetings or to prop up their heads but they use the forefinger on the face, not the middle finger. Rarely, if ever the middle finger. Everyone in this culture knows what it means and sensible, mature people will not risk being misunderstood.




Cher

edited to add: OperationMindCrime, look at your own screen name. You have it in all caps. Do you not know that caps on the I'net means you are "screaming?" Are you oblivious to online body language, too?

Seriously--I don't mean to insult you but really, you don't get it.

:rofl:

Seriously! :rofl:

Sorry there Mrs ruler of body language, but I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Not only do I find you wrong in your own assessment, but I am quite capable of deciphering body language for myself and am competent to do so. To each their own analysis I guess.

As far as your empty attempt and psychoanalyzing me, well that was even more hilarious!

I have one reason and one reason only for the caps. A reason that comes in handy each and every day on DU. I did it to make my SN easier to find when I scroll down the post list at the top of each thread. Works like a charm, and I love it.

So no, he wasn't giving anybody the finger. Sorry! :)

:rofl:


I think that's about enough of the circular replies. We've both made our stance quite clear. :hi:

Nothing like damning yourself in your own words.

You just said you would rather send the wrong message to other posters (I'M SHOUTING!) than take advantage of the many other easier ways to find your own post on a thread. In other words, it's all about you and your needs and not what kind of a message you're conveying to others.




Cher

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

ARE YOU SERIOUS? LOL I MEAN, YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS MELARCHY? LOL

WOW, I'M SPEECHLESS! LOL

SHOUTING WITH A SCREENNAME HANDLE. NOW THAT'S A NEW ONE! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

THANKS FOR THE MORNING LAUGH! I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE OF YOUR COMEDIC PSYCHOANALYSIS ASSUMPTIONS. I BET THEY'RE ALL AS HILARIOUSLY SILLY AS THE ONE ABOVE! I LOVE IT! BRAVO ON THE COMEDY!

:applause:

When you incorrectly spell words--common ones, like "malarkey"--you convey an unwritten message that you are not very well educated.




Cher

is that you have such little to say in response that your only alternative was to find one misspelled word typed at 7:16 in the morning within 10 minutes of my being awake. Unfortunately, picking out one misspelled word and using that as substance for argument is the absolute weakest stance an opponent can take when it comes right down to it. It shows they had to resort to that logic because they had nothing of wit to come back with. I think you will find the overwhelming majority of DU'ers agree with that notion. So when it comes to unwritten messages conveying a lack of intellect there aren't many that can top using spelling as the counterpoint. With all due respect, of course. :hi:

Context.

I know that went way over your head.




Cher

But if it gives you some sense of purpose and feeling of superiority to bicker like this than by all means, don't let me stop you!

God bless you and goodnight anyway! :hi:

how the repukes have so much respect for this country and its government? :eyes:

:evilgrin:

He's opening his show with Censure tonight.

How politically astute he thinks he is. He can go Fuck himself and his whole damn corrupt party.

Go Feingold!

When all else fails, act like a monkey.

the still photos in this thread and to the video.


Peace.

:thumbsup:

On camera would be nice.

It does not take much qualifications to get that nomination

The first two are at the beginning of the speech, about a minute after Specter requested a copy of the Res.

But I've watched it several times, I've slowed it down, tried pausing repeatedly and it looks as likely as not that he is resting his head on TWO fingers, (his index finger and his middle finger) which is a pretty natural way of resting your head. Its not 100 percent clear, but his demeanor etc doesn't suggest to me that he was flipping anyone the bird. IMHO.

onenote

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But I think you're right. After seeing it more than once and at different speeds I would have to agree with you.

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When he did it he looked over to his left to see if anyone would notice his pathetic gesture.

I wish we could get an ID of this little prick.

on his way to Andrews. Does that make me a bad person.

:rofl: