VIDEO- that Punk WAS flipping off Feingold - Take Two

Went back and looked and he flipped off Feingold multiple times

In this compile, which I didn't do transitions on, you can see how he looks around to see if anyone is watching and then brings his hand up. I also threw in two bits where it's his index finger or his entire hand, so you can see the difference. He's CLEARLY watching to see if he can get away with it.

First video clip on CanOFun is here-short, last flip off

By whom? His Republican bosses?

They're probably forging a gold medal for him as we type.

hopefully he belongs to someone like spectre who would do something opposed to frist (the cat killer) who would do nothing

It's the "Go Fuck Yourself" syndrome on the Senate floor.

he'd be busted as a "disrupter" - fucking hypocritical ass clowns.

It looks like the guy just fidgets alot with his hands. Not to bum anyone out. It just doesn't seem clear cut to me.

first thing in the AM. That was dispicible (sp)!

I recognize the 'move' as it was a favorite of ours in middle school.
yep, dignity in the sentate.

anyone know where we can get that list from?

The dude is also using the shame move - hand covering face- In addition he's glancing over at the gal on the left to see if she's watching. Busted.

somewhere!

thanks for catching, and posting, this.

My kids have a list of ways to flip people off like that... the push-your-glasses-back-up-on-your-nose flip off, the putting-on-lip-gloss flip off, etc. What a weenie.

all of the boys would try to do something like this guy did whenever their picture was being taken. It meant major points if your "bird" made the yearbook. You would put your middle finger in your eye, scratch your nose, your knee, etc. and hope that the prinicpal missed it when he vetted all of the photos. This moran is truly adolescent.

I notice that the guy had 2 seperate passes, while the woman sitting nearby had none. One of those passes looked a lot like a press pass to me.

... as well.


Peace.

corp. What is it with repukes that they can't express themselves verbally. How immature was that? It's scary to think we have these infantiles at the helm. I guess that explains why we are at war. "My bombs are bigger than your bombs" attitude.

Run with that footage, Jon can remark about the chilish sophmoric nature of it, the staffer gets detention and sent down to the President's office who asks where this young man learned such behavior: Run the Bush footage and the punchline is "From you, OK! I learned it from watching you!"

I think he is talking about when ** and his gang of thugs were marching into the capitol building before the CAFTA vote, I think. We debated for days whether it was his middle finger, thumb, or a pen.

It was 100% visible, unquestionable and apparent in the original tv feed that was shown on Olbermann etc... When viewing it on tv instead of online, it was so easily identifiable as his thumb it wasn't even funny.

slow motion really kicks ass when looking at stuff like that :)

COURTEOUS body (although I guess Cheney started that down the wrong path with his Go Feck Yourself). Obviously that's just a myth and low-lifes inhabit the Senate chambers, too.

I'll give the benefit of doubt for now. Could be just fidgeting a lot with no intended meaning. Heck, for we know he's Russ's staffer.

three times as you say, but he also has several full hand, and several first finger gestures too. While I did see him checking to see if the woman across from him was looking, she never did...

In other words: Maybe. I am not convinced.

:shrug:

try it, it's quite awkward, not natural.

The base says "F U"! Unfortunately the finger is pointed at the disapprovals, and we are the majority!

LOLOLOLS


Four More Beers

he is my devil's advocate... he agrees one finger is so unnatural and to do it six times? And his constant movement to position his finger. Totally intentional.

believe or not....perception IS reality a wise man once told me.

...and seemed like something I had never done before. Uncomfortable.

Keith Olberman Needs to Show this tonight!!!!

being so slick with this little move. Like he thinks he's the first guy to ever think of this clever flip-off. Hope he gets fired.

Not a shred of doubt in my mind that it is just innocent boredom. None in my mind whatsoever.

Obviously, most are going to disagree with me. But I'm attempting to be as objective and realistic as possible, and under that mindset don't think for a second this guy was doing anything with intent at all.

To each their own and Peace anyway! :)

editing it and there's no doubt in my mind that he was flipping him off.

he were really flipping Feingold off. He seems to me to be a "restless hand" guy -- he made, basically, all possibly hand motions one could make with 1, 2, 4 and 5 fingers --

And peace to all who see more -- let me know if you identify the guy -- I'd love to know if he is a Feingold staffer --

:rofl:

(and you can see it if you watch the entire thing) not restless, not moving his hands, etc. He was furtive-he looked around to see if anyone was watching and then brought his hand up.

The guy was disrespectful in so many ways. Covering his eyes in a "what a stupid tedious jerk" display etc.

The finger thing was positively junior high - that's just how a kid would do it - within an unnatural flurry of other "cover" movements.

needs to have a talk with him about being a distraction during important addressess. You should never have a background diversion like that where people would even *wonder* what the meaning of someone's gestures are.

I remember when Hillary Clinton was in a hearing recently and the guy behind her seemed to have forgotten his ADHD pills that day.

Based on...nothing really. His attitude, his boredom, his total disregard for what Feingold was saying. I think it was some punk kid who was tired & bored & didn't care who knew. To me, it doesn't seem like he's really reacting to Feingold's speech; actually, he doesn't seem to be paying attention at all. Instead, he looks around, checks out the woman next to him, gets bored, starts fidgeting, randomly flips through papers, & tries to stay awake. He looks like a student at the end of a 3-hour lecture.

And here is the definitive proof: he was wearing a blue pass. This is the pass that interns who have access to the White House wear. I don't know if this guy was a White House intern, or if the Senate has the same pass. But it does look very similar to an intern's pass. Notice that the actual staffer to his right doesn't have the same passes. So, that's my speculative opinion on this vital national issue.

He's present when a resolution to censure the President of the United States is submitted, and he's bored? No way! He's a Repug showing his disdain for the laws of the land.

So many of them are on The Dark Side.

just follow along with the video and do those mannerisms along with it, then tell me that again........

just follow along with the video and look where his finger is angled, and realize it is nowhere near Russ.

Honestly, I don't know how I find myself in the minority sometimes with such blatantly logical issues :rofl:

Luckily this has no bearing on the state of politics or our country and is just lighthearted discussion, but still, I'm all sorts of scratchin my head tonight with this one. :)

anyone, I will be the first to say that you were right. :hi:

Nice ferrets BTW.

He knew he was on camera.
It was very rude to say the least.

flip him off ? I watched the whole thing and it was one of his staff. Staff members sit directly behind the Senators.

it to the woman on the left. Or even someone beyond her not ever in screen.

I did find the rules on staff/senate/floor:

FLOOR ACCESS RULES:

* Former Members are prohibited from being on the floor (including the Speaker's Lobby and cloakrooms) if any matter in which they have a personal or pecuniary interest or are employed or retained as a lobbyist is pending before the House. Matters are considered pending once full or subcommittee hearings have been held, or once a bill or resolution has been called up by a full or subcommittee.

* Committee staff are permitted on the floor only during the consideration of measures reported from their committees. A maximum of five committee staff (for the majority and minority) is permitted.

* Personal staff are not permitted on the floor of the House except when their Member has an amendment actually pending under the five-minute rule. A Member offering an amendment under the five-minute rule may be accompanied by one personal staff Member.

* Staff are not permitted to pass out literature or otherwise attempt to influence Members or their votes.

http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/house_decorum.htm

not the Senate. Also it looked like the staff member was tired, probably due to the work in getting this resolution together for Feingold.

http://www.rules.senate.gov/senaterules/rule23.php

Regardless, I would like proof the dude was a Feingold staffer. He sure didn't act like one.

any other staffers on the floor are way up in the back, and the Republican staffers are on the Republican side and the Democrat staffers are on the Democrat side. I just happen to be a C-Spanaholic, and watch the Senate and House daily, and this is how it works.

it logically instead. Unfortunately we are in the minority right now LOL

the Senate floor, anybody can sit anywhere.

of screen. It seems that everytime he did it, at least that I saw it was aimed in that direction. When his hands were in the front he had all of his fingers extended, but as soon as they went to the side the middle finger went straight up. She was the person he seemed to be concerned about when he was looking around.

If so, maybe she was a repuke and he was telling her to shove it whenever the constitutional issue came up. Either way this is a Cheney moment for somebody.

Just saying, complete conjecture on my part.

Just based on his body language. A Feingold staffer would've been paying more attention to this speech. This guy did not even look at Feingold.

Senators and were divided by the aisle. So if he isn't a Feingold staffer then he may be another dem staffer. If so, then my guess is we won't be seeing this man anytime soon sitting on that side of the aisle.

- What does that blue ID represent? And why isn't the female aide wearing one?
- If you notice the female aide leaves at around midpoint of the speech. Did she notice too? Was the man directing it at her?

come on...someone has to know him or see him on c-span occasionally.

Where's the logs of the senate so I can see who was there that day?