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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:53 PM
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Is the Russ Feingold move to Censure the Pres. effectively dead?
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 07:10 PM by IsItJustMe
On Lou Dobbs tonight, it was said that the Feingold bill to Censure has been refereed to the Judicial Committee and will most likely die of a slow death.

This seems to be tactic used by Senators to get rid of bills that they don't want to vote on.

One of the main Democrats who is on the Judiciary committee is Democratic Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois. Durbin suggested, on the floor of the Senate, that they may need to send the censure motion to the Judiciary Committee for further consideration right after Feingold offered the motion.

http://durbin.senate.gov/
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:01 PM
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1. It won't die if we raise holy hell.NT
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:01 PM
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2. Patience Grasshopper
watch and see, in the meantime, call your senators.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:04 PM
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3. I imagine so. Specter is a Republican first, you know.
He loves the cameras, though, and will enjoy puffing himself up and mentioning his senior stature, his knowledge, his absolute greatness! all while minimalizing Feingold, the junior senator from Wisconsin.

He is vain as well. This photo on his web site must be from his high school yearbook.

Sphincter, er, Specter, chair of the Judiciary Committee, refused to put Gonzales under oath when the domestic spying first was unearthed. Don't expect anything resembling truth or an investigation from him!


Specter & Santorum Greet Guests at State of the Union
Pennsylvania Senators Arlen Specter and Rick Santorum, both members of the President's escort committee, greet guests at the State of the Union on January 31, 2006.
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PVK Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:09 PM
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4. Russ says he'll ask for a vote if the committee doesn't move on it quickly
http://www.chippewa.com/articles/2006/03/14/ap-state-wi/d8gbblbo8.txt

"I look forward to a full hearing, debate and vote in committee on this important matter," Feingold, D-Wis., said in a statement. "If the committee fails to consider the resolution expeditiously, I will ask that there be a vote in the full Senate."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:10 PM
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5. The vote itself is not important--DISCUSSION of the vote is what matters
We know we do not have the votes to prevail, at least not now. But if we can keep this issue floating along, we can keep bringing it up. Actually, it benefits us to NOT have a vote on it right now. We want to talk about censure from now until the 06 elections.

We need to keep asking about the bill, what sort of progress the committee has made, and keep demanding discussion of it. And we need to get those GOP Senators running for reelection on the record as opposing the bill, and then use their words against them at the right time. Anyone with GOP senators up for reelection, send them a very polite, thoughtful letter, telling them you are upset that the Monkeyking has sold our security to the highest bidder, urging them to censure him, and asking them to let you know how they would vote on the censure question. You might get back a reply you can use!

The more people hear the words BUSH and CENSURE together, the more it will sound like PRETZELS and BEER--two things that GO TOGETHER...we just need to keep that discussion front and center.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:17 PM
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7. So in other words, patience is a true virtue. What you just said makes a
hell of a lot of sence. I never thought of it that way.

;-);-);-)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:29 PM
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10. Work it like an ad campaign! Sing along to that Budweiser tune!!!
When you've said BUUUUUUSH-CENSURE!

You've said it all!!!


We just need time and patience, and REPETITION, to sell this Censure like a bottle of ice cold Bud!

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:46 PM
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11. Hey, Repetition sells beer! I'll try repeating it wherever I go.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:28 PM
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9. You have a beeeeautiful mind!!!
:bounce:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:12 PM
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6. It never had a chance to begin with
not enough Dems in the Senate even if they all voted for it to pass. It's mainly a symbolic gesture by Feingold.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:20 PM
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8. It's more than a symbolic gesture
It's a call to action. Our pathetic Party Leaders wet themselves running as far away as possible from it. Don't want to anger the republicans, they might want to take over the country :yoiks:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:49 PM
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12. From what I read it is going through committee and
he says if he doesn't get the votes, he will take it to the Senate Floor

See this post for the total article

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=661920&mesg_id=661920
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