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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:48 PM
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Have any problems with Acetaminophen?
I sometimes take it for arthritis and in the last 3 nights I have gotten up every hour on the hour, bad dreams and I feel 'drugged'.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:50 PM
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1. That is NOT a normal reaction
You need to see a doc. Anyone putting anything in your food, do ya think????
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:59 PM
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8. My Cat?
:shrug:???
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:52 PM
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2. stuffs me up
Ibuprofen stuffs up my nasal passages, so I stick to organic aspirin
(Nature's Way White Willow Bard Standardized) which I buy online.

For arthritis, I buy the blood-type supplements from North American
Pharmacal... and they work like a charm.

Still, there's nothing I can do about the wear and tear due to old age.
My jaw's out of line and bothers me a lot, but it's minor to what arthritis
can do elsewhere.

Sue
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:01 PM
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11. Help......I don't know what this means
link, please!


For arthritis, I buy the blood-type supplements from North American
Pharmacal... and they work like a charm.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:54 PM
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3. if you have to take it, small doses, very rarely
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:54 PM
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4. I take if for arthritis too, but have been warned that it can
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 12:57 PM by Cleita
damage your kidneys. I would check in with your doctor. Let him evaluate if it is the acetominophine or something else.

Edited for using wrong drug.
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:54 PM
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5. A possibility
Acetaminophen is processed almost entirely by your liver, and if your liver can't handle it, you can have wakefulness and bad dreams. When I have those symptoms, I know I need to back off on something I'm taking. My doctor recommended Aleve for my arthritis, 2 tabs morning and evening. I seem to handle it better than tylenol. Amount of acetaminophen required to help the pain of arthritis too often comes close to being a toxic dose. I also have bad dreams when I take Ambien.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:58 PM
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7. Thanks.I've taken it before with no problem
Is it possible I have a bad batch?I bought store brand from Krogers,500 mgs and I only take one at night.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:15 PM
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14. the liver is a filter. I can run fine for ages and then suddenly flare up
It filters out poisons. The body interprets nearly all medicines as poison.
It can reach a point where it says "that's it, no more".

not sure if that's your problem, just explaining how you can take the same meds and have them suddenly turn on you.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:58 PM
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6. I have.
And it gives me nightmares. Acetaminophen in ineffective against inflammation, only some short circuiting of pain in the brain.
At the level of dosage that I have to take pain relievers and nsaids, as well as steroids and sulfasalazine to control chronic arthritis, acetaminophen would be deadly.
The recent commercials on TV, hawking acetaminophen as useful for arthritis, are the very worst kind of misinformation and are actually quite dangerous. They ought to be sued--big time.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:00 PM
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9. It can make some people sleepy
and that might account for the "drugged" feeling.

Talk to your doc about whether an anti inflammatory pain drug might be a better choice for you. If your GI system can tolerate one, it might be your solution. Examples are aspirin, iburpofen, and naproxen, and they're all over the counter.

Pain treatment is highly individual. What works for one person won't touch another.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:00 PM
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10. Ask a doctor
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 01:02 PM by Marie26
Asking advice on the Internet can be dangerous. Hope you feel better.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:26 PM
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16. Really didn't ask for advice as to what to take
I was just surprised that it is giving me trouble and never did before. I get bad arthritis pain when the weather is going to change, then it settles down(Barometric pressure).

It's going to storm in Denver in the next 2 days. I'll be ok tomorrow.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:07 PM
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12. Forget that stuff. Stick to aspirin, or other things that have been around
for thousands of years.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:29 PM
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17. Now that's bad advice
sorry, Aspirin can do more damage than most o/c pills
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:54 PM
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20. I rarely take aspirin either, but if I was taking something I'd avoid
those things that are hard on the liver.

I've a fairly tough stomach.

Maybe some sort of willow bark tea would be better than aspirin.

I've pain from past injuries.

I don't take anything for it, unless you count herb.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:29 PM
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18. Ye olde hot water bottle!!! n.t
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:03 PM
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22. And at other times cold.
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Nomen Tuum Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:13 PM
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13. Don't take Tylenol if you drink alcohol!
Doing both causes a toxic reaction that kills your liver.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:20 PM
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15. Number ONE cause of liver failure.
People think Tylenol (acetomiphen is the generic) is safe, but in large doses it's NOT. NEVER take more than the recommended dose. It can destroy your liver.

http://www.cqs.com/tylenol.htm

That's just the first link I found, but if you google tylenol liver failure you can find lots of articles.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:32 PM
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25. IIRC, it's not even particularly large doses
I think you start hitting the danger point at about twice the recommended dose, which is easy to reach if you confuse the big super-sized pills with the smaller regular strength ones (500 mg vs. 250 mg, I think). A few drinks of alcohol can really compound the problem...
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:39 PM
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19. throw out your tylenol and eat some ginger!
-ginger has been proven as an effective anti-inflammatory with results comparable or better than NSAIDs
-conventional treatment of arthritis with NSAIDs causes 3,300 ulcer related deaths annually


http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=72



Srivastava KC, Mustafa T. Ginger (Zingiber officinale) in rheumatism and musculoskeletal disorders. Med Hypothesis 39(1992):342-8.
Srivastava KC, Mustafa T. Ginger (Zingiber officinale) and rheumatic disorders. Med Hypothesis 29 (1989):25-28.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:29 PM
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24. Dr. Wiel also recommends ginger, as well as turmeric for inflammation
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 03:59 PM
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29. Yes he does
I just saw his PBS special where he talks about it.
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flashsmith Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:02 PM
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21. Nightmares
I had that reaction to Percocet, which I believe is Acetaminophen with Codeine. Worked great for 3 days after my shoulder surgery then whamo. Sick as a dog, a headache to end all headaches and nightmares to boot. Switched to Ibuprofen which wasn't as good on the pain but didn't have the side effects. After awhile, the Advil wasn't effective and I switched to Aspirin, 3 325mg tabs morning, noon and night. You can take a slight overdose of aspirin without damaging your liver(unlike Acetaminophen). Took care of the pain issues. With Aspirin, ( or Ibuprofen for that matter) you have to make sure to take it with plenty of water and don't lie down within an hour or it'll burn your stomach. You'll feel nauseous if this happens. I grew up when aspirin was all there was and I tolerate it well. If you have stomach issues, then aspirin isn't for you.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:18 PM
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23. Are you consuming ANY alcohol?
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 02:24 PM by RazzleDazzle
Seems to me (if acetominophen is Tylenol and IIRC), that's s a really bad liver-killing combo.

At any rate, you're smart enough to stop taking it for a while, right?

One other thought, tho. Do you have any food allergies? Or have you been consuming any GMO foods?

Later: I notice othes glommed onto this liver issue as well. I'd give it up for good. You've only got ONE liver, and it does over 500 very, very, very important things for you.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 03:58 PM
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28. GMO foods......
How does anyone know....Here is a great list but I'm sure that there are more that is not on the list. I very well may have eaten something in the last few days? :shrug:
http://www.truefoodnow.org/shoppersguide/
http://www.truefoodnow.org/shoppersguide/guide_printable.html#cereal
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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:34 PM
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26. DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL
with it in any way, shape or form. Deadly to the liver. This killed my brother at 34 years of age.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 03:19 PM
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27. try an alternative here
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Parrcrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 04:25 PM
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30. locking
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