Why I'm Not a Democrat

Don't get me wrong. I'm a liberal. A liberal INDEPENDENT. Because I've realized that you can't really trust any political party. To a lesser degree than the Bush administration, the Clinton administration was also responsible for arrests without charges. There was at least one case in which they made someone 'dissapear'. And seeing how little support there is for the censure, I can hardly say that the Democratic party is standing up for the ideals that it is supposed to hold in opposition to Republican tyrany.

Thanks.

Was David Copperfield in the Clinton Administration?

I'm a penguin fanatic--- BEFORE the March of the Penguins. My obsession goes back years. Yes, really. Years. :scary:

God rest 'em. :cry:

just look at him!!

tell me that's not the face of pure evil!!!

I never really trusted the Swedish chef:

:rofl:

That woman will stop at nothing. Poor Bill gets the blame.

You think those pets just "disappear?" (The Clintons never denied making pets disappear, did they? Well DID THEY?! As Michelle Malkin would say, "DON'T YOU WONDER?!?" :tinfoilhat:

:sarcasm:

Dogs, too. No note, nuthin'... And they had everything to live for.

There's no record of the Clintons making any statement about these disappearances.

The former president's silence on this issue CANNOT STAND!

If she doesn't, it's because she's got such a guilt complex for disappearing those innocent creatures.

If she does, well... perish the thought!

Quick! Call Sir Paul McCartney!

It all adds up. But naturally, the media is SILENT on this.

Also, Vince did not disappear he was found dead. As for Madalyn - don't think they ever found her so she did disappear mid 90's. One out of three - not bad.

of her son.

Ba-dum-dum.

nt

They never tried the glove on either of the Clintons, did they?? :tinfoilhat:

the practice of rendition. In and of itself it is only half true.

:shrug:

Huh... "disappear"??

either party and certainly the Dems don't always stand up when and how I want them to. But, the lie was put forth in the last two elections that there wasn't that much difference between Republicans and Dems-I still voted Dem anyway. This last year in particular I have seen Republicans gut or attempt to gut all the long-standing laws to protect people in favor of corporate interests, doing it without any type of bipartisan spirit. (And I have watched a LOT of Cspan). There IS a difference, the Republican party is not only a huge failure but does not stand up for people. Warts and all, I'll be a Democrat any day of the week over a Republican.

And, I might add, I have seen (and recorded) PLENTY of Democrats standing up for Democracy-they just don't get played on corporate media.

to, I'll ALWAYS vote Dem.

Redstone

I trust the Democratic Party more than the GOP because there is a difference between the two.

Kinda smells fishy to me.

Especially as you are starting a post.

I don't disagree with you. But more details to think about would strengthen your point of view, rather than making you come across questionably. Not that I am; I too am less than trusting of any political party.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Dem Progressives, especially sisters and brothers here on DU.

You sound a bit like Faux news---who did Clinton "disappear" and arrest without charges. Considering he had the entire repub Congress up his ass for six years, I find it hard to believe this slipped past them. So he was impeached for a blow job, when arrests and disappearences were available? Nice try.

:eyes:

So you should choose the side that best represents your interests. We can control our sides. It depends on you. I myself would rather see a parlaimentary system in the lower house of Congress that would better represent individual interests, but we don't have that today.

"To a lesser degree than the Bush administration." Understatement of the year!

:shrug:

there's a damn good reason not to (such as the capable Republicans we have in our town government).

Given that only have the two parties, you gotta go with the lesser of the two evils, if you want to look at it that way.

And trust me, compared to Republicans, the Dems are not "the lesser of two evils;" they're absolute saints.

I think your post was kind of insulting ot the people here.

Redstone

I'd still expect you to back up your claims...

... otherwise, this feels like a rethug hit and run, which I certainly hope it is not. That would be an incredible waste of your time.

How about telling us what you've been up to lately to change the situation, other than whining.

What specific ideals are you talking about, btw?

:rofl:

I want to belong to a political party that has the history, dedication and organizational skills to make America a better place. I realize that that many problems that plague our society won't be solved overnight, but I have the patience to trust Howard Dean, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durbin and other prominent party leaders. I understand the centuries old concept of "give and take".

I believe all people have value, and should be treated fairly.. I believe that the greater good of all is more important than the greater good of a select few.. I value math and science.. I value education for our children.. I value peace, and the ideals that go along with it.. I'll be the first to admit that The Dems don't always stand up when they should, but the Dem ideals are the ones that fit me best.. If push comes to shove removing the DINO's from our party is much easier than trying to build another party from the ground up.. I'm not real pleased wit the current Dem leadership, but I am a Dem, and I won't forsake my party over that issue alone..

Clinton did bad things too! So why get mad at Bush?! Clinton was evil so it's okay if Bush is evil too! And what Clinton did was just like Bush-they might as well be twins! as if you can't tell right (hee hee) from wrong.

And get him impeached! Yipeeee!

none of the young girls I know will volunteer.

Here she is, mentally preparing to put in "all she has in this world." :eyes: "Patriotic" katherine harris, she will give all for her country. :sarcasm:

There was at least one case in which they made someone 'dissapear'.

Right wing talking points.

:popcorn:

Who did Clinton "disappear"?

OP care to address that?

Do independents recognize that?

:shrug:

and now the old "Clinton did it" routine.

HEY! Maybe Clinton "disappeared" our little friend!

:spray: Good one!

I am the Doctor of Sarcasm!

They're too stupid for much else.

Those dickless Dems don't deserve you among their number anyway. Sing on, Song.

Who did the Clinton administration "disappear?" :shrug:

I really need to employ that little sarcasm emotie so's everybody will know I'm being cynical.

:hi:

Enlighten us, please, as you seem to want to share the answer.

Clinton handed over.

could they be?

"Disappeared" by Clinton? Did they find the Clinton's hidden stash of missing pets?

Oh, the drama! Oh, the mystery!

Oh, who cares? :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

You mean like a tombstone?

:)

What would you like on your Tombstone?

something. At least they could learn how to spell correctly.

it up. Goodbye and thanks for playing. . .there's your door prize out the door!

Sad thing is, you almost had me convinced that you're an independent liberal. . .spouting off Sean Hannity clap trap.

Buh bye! Adios!

...given a scissors and a flashlight, you STILL couldn't manage your way out of a paper bag.

helpfully,
Bright

I registered as a republican on advice from my father during the Reagan years when I was 18. I've never believed in trusting any elected official. The funny thing is, is that I've NEVER voted for a republican - I've always voted democratic. Some of the issues I care about - freedom of speech, open government, economic justice, women's reproductive rights, freedom of/from religion, not invading other nations, workers rights - sure as hell aren't being advanced by the republicans my father supported. Yes, there are some examples of Democrats not supporting these like Zell Miller or Lieberman, but there are lots of Dems that do - Dean, Kucinich, Kerry, Edwards, Clinton (both of them), Gore, Feingold, Wellstone, Kennedy, Pelosi, Kurita, Conyers and more. Technically, I might not be a Democrat in name, but I'm definitely blue in spirit.

:shrug:

It doesn't matter too much since I can still vote in the democratic primary, but I guess changing it would give me some small satisfaction - not that the pub's would care too much since I'm not a "have" or a "have more".

You are one of those... hit and run. Where is link to the accusation? Last time I've check under Republican pResident, Congress and Senate, all the surplus has disappeared and the civil liberty and the constitution is disappearing too.
I would much rather stick with democratic party, because, I trust them to do better job with my money.

:shrug:

It's a way to show the other coyotes what happens.

there was an influx of crows on my parents little farm. Now we were poor and needed the corn and pecans. We ate much of the corn, but some of it was ground up to feed the old milk cow. Without her, we didn't get any milk. The pecan crop would sometimes bring in $200.00 or more. Without that, we didn't get any Christmas presents. My father killed a couple of the crows and hung them up in the corn field. They moved on as he would say.

Good point.. we need to make an "example" of some of these people.

I would suggest that the offending post(s) should be marked with something like, "WARNING: THE FOLLOWING POST IS ANTI-AMERICAN - Moderator", in big red letters. :) Just so people aren't sucked in.

In fact, DU needs to be a tad more lenient with some of these posts. Leave 'em up and give us some target practice. November 2006 is fast approaching.

Gee funny how those things work out huh? bu bye! :hi:

:D

It smells like ... VICTORY!

Here's to a great thread!

Clinton's almost the same as B*sh! You got me convinced.

Bushco may have detained 100's of mostly innocent people at Guantanamo and kidnapped and tortured potentially 1000's all over the world with "extraordinary renditions", not to mention Abu Ghraib..

But someone disappeared while Clinton was prez so he's obviously just as bad.

Good point, well made. "Heckuva job, Raynie!"

what an ass