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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:21 AM
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Ok...all you Gates addicts....time to kick the habit.
Well....almost. How about having a MAC with 2 drives that can run either system at start-up? Well this is close to being a reality according to this story. I have always admired MAC's and now if this story is true wwe can have the best of both worlds. -Kevin

http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macword/2006/03/winmac/index.php


<SNIP>Yes, the iMac does Windows

By Jason Snell

Yesterday was a milestone day for the Mac. A pair of enterprising hackers got Windows XP to boot on an Intel-based Mac, and won almost $14,000 for their troubles.


<SNIP> Mac users are Mac users because they love the Mac. But some of us, from time to time, need to run Windows — usually for a small collection of programs that aren’t Mac compatible. For anyone who has the need to boot into Windows from time to time, this is great news — because it means that we can stop buying PCs altogether, and just keep an extra partition handy on our Macs.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:25 AM
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1. No offense to macoids
but windows runs on standard and open "pc" architecture platforms. The MAC OS, now that it has been ported to the x86 intel processor architecture, ought to do the same. Given Apple's fondness for closed hardware/software systesm, that is unlikely.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:10 AM
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4. Dumbest thing they ever did
was cling to that closed system.

Can you imagine what would have happened had Mac software been designed to run on pc architecture as well?

Gates wouldn't be living in quite as big a megamansion and Jobs would be on the hill above him, looking down.

Face it, Mac software has always been superior. The problem is that their hardware has always been overpriced to the point that most of us just passed it up and decided to live with Windows and its flaws.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:43 AM
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2. I could also hammer a wood screw into my elbow . . .
But why would I want to do that?

If you like the Mac, get a Mac; if you like Windows, get a Windows machine. The data files are compatible, for the most part. Outside of service bureaus and software developers making products for both platforms, I can't see the point.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:53 AM
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3. every time I upgrade my computer I keep telling myself that It will be a
Mac the next time, haven't done it yet though. I like the idea because I only have one program that I just have to have and it's a windows compatible program not mac. I know a few people who have mac's and the literally love them. So now all I have to do is buy another hard drive and load it with os X, is that right
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:13 PM
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9. No, because OSX still uses closed hardware. I don't think it will run
on a regular PC like Windows does.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:53 PM
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15. as is said if it sounds to good to be true it probably is
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:12 AM
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5. Why not get one Mac and one PC? They're cheap now.
As for me, I have two PCs, one with Windows, the other with Linux. I have all the applications I need between those two.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:15 AM
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6. No thanks
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:54 AM
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7. Been there, done that.
I hated my Mac. Went back to Windows after two years.

Nothing personal.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:13 PM
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10. Heresy!
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:16 PM
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11. You would think, from the devotion Mac users have.
I just don't get it. My machine blew up just as often, didn't run software that I needed. The software it DID run was way more expensive. All the components were proprietary and very expensive. Sheesh. Fergit it.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:20 PM
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12. A good friend has Windows and Linux machines, and works mostly with
Macs. He works in an IT area for a research medical facility.

He doesn't feel Mac has inherent advantages over Windows in terms of overall user friendliness and reliability at this point, although there is still a security advantage as far as viruses and malware.

Of course he doesn't work in graphic design where we always here about the supposed superiority of Macs and their applications for this.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:12 PM
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8. OMG, I thought you were talking about Gates BBQ and I was prepared to
to box you.

http://www.gatesbbq.com/

Mmmmmm......beef on bun with fries.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:22 PM
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13. Here is my favorite BBQ....
http://www.brooksbbq.com/

<SNIP>The average number of customers on a week day is 600 people. The average number of customers on a weekend day is 1100 people. These numbers do not include our take-out and catering services.


<SNIP>Brooks' House of Bar-B-Q also houses the largest indoor charcoal pit in the East (38 feet in length).




YUM!!!!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:51 PM
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17. I appreciate the sentiment, but the fact is that absolutely, positively
no BBQ joint in NY could compare to Kansas City BBQ. No matter how many customers per day!

This is not a reflection on you, just the facts.

My favorite BBQ is www.jackstackbbq.com. That is their shipping website if you'd like to give it a go sometime - Bon Appetit!
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:18 AM
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20. Where a BBQ house is located has nothing to do with flavor!
I remember a Chili House in Portchester NY won 3rd best chili House in the USA in a country wide NYT poll. I think the # 1 & 2 contestants were in Texas. Brooks also has a web based sales page. I promise to try some BBQ sauce from your favorite if you promise to do the same?

Sounds like a "win-win" to me!
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:31 PM
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14. I have a friend who partitioned his machine for dual boot.
He runs Linux in one and Windows in the other. Why bother with MAC? :shrug:
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:23 PM
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16. Screw that....
Intel is one of the biggest Rethug donors out there.

When these machines die, we'll go completely Linux, use AMD chipsets and never look back.

Why would I want the headaches of dealing with those virus ridden, buggy, crash prone pieces of bloatware? Thanks, but I'll stick with something reliable.

(donning flame-proof suit and getting out the popcorn...)
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:53 PM
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18. Sorry, but I'm not going from one mdiocre system
to another, if I make the break, it'll be all Linux, all the time
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 04:05 PM
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19. We've got all three actually.... (Linux, Windoz, OSX)
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 04:06 PM by MazeRat7
Mostly Linux distros on the severs and laptops for the heavy lifting, a couple of windoz boxes for those of you who INSIST on posting wmf files and other non-standard multi-media files that can ONLY be read by windows, and of course my wife has her iMac.

After 25years in the software design business I can say without qualification that no one OS can be everything to everybody. The key is to dedicate systems to certain kinds of functions.

As a side note, with all the PC/104+, mini-ITX, etc hardware now on the market running embedded version of Linux and Java, it is getting easier to have more and more dedicated systems on your local home network for a variety of things (routers, multi-media, file services, web services, etc, etc).

Just my $.02 since OS religion wars are so late 90's. :)

MZr7
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