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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:33 PM
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Watergate quote: "he would be there and we could have him assassinated.'
I am currently reading Trout Fishing in the Reflection Pool or the Fireside Watergate. 1973 by Nicholas von Hoffman and Garry Trudeau.

The book has a story where G Gordon Liddy as requesting death, if that is what "the mission" called for.:patriot:

snip p.99 Quoting Fred LaRue.
'Liddy said he would never reveal any information in the course of any investigation even if it led to him. But if we were not satisfied with that assurance he said that, though he was opposed to suicide, if we would instruct him to be on any street corner at any time, he would be there and we could have him assassinated.'

This, friends, is a perfect example of what the neo-cons are willing and capable of. Be aware. These people are not kind.

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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:37 PM
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1. mdmc: "Be aware. These people are not kind."
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 07:37 PM by Independent_Liberal
You got that right!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:39 PM
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:39 PM
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3. "Grow up liddy, that gun isn't even loaded..."
click...click...click

"I'll be damned, you're right."

It's been about 33 years, but I remember a strip like that.
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redphish Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:39 PM
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4. Instead, he's a neocon hero along with Sir Ollie North...
Who should be in prison right now, convicted of treason. Oh the double standards.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 08:29 PM
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9. It reminds me of what Michael J. Fox said about his character
Alex P. Keaton. "I tried to make him the most vilified, evil sob that I could think of." The young republicans responded, "Thats our guy!"

I would wager that Ollie North is less honored then Liddy. Liddy never betrayed the great Ray-gun.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:41 PM
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5. It amazes me how they can throw people under the bus....
and they still toe the party line. Hard to buy loyalty like that.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 08:31 PM
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10. Imagine what Dennis Kucinich could do with some committed
agents such as Liddy.

Loyalty like that is indeed hard to find.
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:50 PM
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6. Liddy has always scared me...
He's batshit crazy, and he has a talk show. Naturally.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:11 PM
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14. I've never listen to him. Have you?
Hey, do you go to UNLV? I used to live in Hendersonville.
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:07 AM
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21. Nope,
I have never listened to his show, but I have heard him on television. Nope, don't go to UNLV. I finished college many moons ago. UNLV is a good school, though, and we do go to public events there, seminars against the death penalty and that sort of thing. Have you been to Henderson in recent years? It is growing dramatically.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 07:10 PM
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23. I left in 99 when I heard Hillary was running in NY
I used to work out in Stateline / Primm. This year you got Jack Carter running right?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:52 PM
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7. Liddy was a curious character.
He wasn't a neocon, though certainly that group would eventually move in his direction. He was, interestingly, the most honest of the Watergate participants.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 08:17 PM
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8. some trivia about Liddy ... he ate a rat
Liddy describes himself as having been sickly as a child, and possessed of many irrational fears. To confront and overcome these fears, Liddy performed various acts that would "kill the fear". Examples include catching, cooking and eating a rat (in order to overcome a phobia to rats) and climbing a tree during a thunderstorm (in order to overcome a phobia to lightning).

One of Liddy's most famous feats of endurance involved holding his hand on a candle flame until the flesh on his hand was burned. According to the book All The President's Men, he did this once at a dinner party and afterwards somebody asked "What's the trick?". He replied, "The trick is not minding." (In giving that response, Liddy may have been copying a line spoken by Peter O'Toole (portraying T. E. Lawrence) in one of the opening scenes from the 1963 motion picture Lawrence of Arabia.)

Controversial statements

During Liddy's tenure as a radio talk-show host, many controversial statements have been attributed to him, some of which would eventually lead to condemnation by then-President Bill Clinton.

August 26, 1994 - Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests." ... "They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches.

September 15, 1994 - If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head.

While condemning Nazism, Liddy has admitted some limited admiration for Adolf Hitler.

While often talking a great deal about military matters and promoting his “tough guy” persona, Liddy in fact was stationed at Coney Island during his two years in the US Army, and never saw combat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Liddy
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 08:37 PM
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13. thanks for the link
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 08:35 PM
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12. Can you clarify, H20 Man. What do you mean he was not a neo-con
I really don't know much about Liddy.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:58 PM
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20. At that time,
the group who became the core neocons were conservative democrats. Liddy was an intelligence operative, with extremely conservative views. In the Watergate era, they were distinct.

Liddy is an odd character. When people refer to him as a sociopath, that is not accurate. One can disagree with him on 100% of his political views, but not have to be concerned that he is a liar in the sense that a Newt Gingrich, a Lewis Libby, a Dick Cheney, a Sean Hannity, or other weasals are.

Again, in the Watergate and post-Watergate era, he was the most honest of the players about what really happened. His opinions are off the wall, including on Watergate. But of anyone, from within the White House or outside, including those who testified, Liddy was the most honest and accurate.

He has a mean and brutal side, and sees things in very rigid, black versus white terms. But one knows what they are up against with him.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:07 AM
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22. thanks for the reply
I was too young to remember, and didn't study enough history. Peace!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 08:34 PM
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11. Is it possible some of them, like Liddy for instance, have a mutant
sort of Messianic Complex going?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:11 PM
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15. loyalty, at least
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:20 PM
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16. No, more than that for some. They are SO SURE they are right
and destined to be martyred or something. Like they almost wish for it to prove their level of devotion. Liddy is just plain odd.

I have met what I would describe as 'real warriors' who have a mystic quality about them, but Liddy doesn't fit that exactly either.

:shrug:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:21 PM
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17. mystic, as in warriors
Liddy is creepy, like an assassin.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:22 PM
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18. He is THAT!
Sociopath at the very least.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:39 PM
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19. and now we have a whole new class
and the neo-con frats keep churnin and turnin them out.
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