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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 02:53 PM
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***** Raise the Minimum Wage *****
An email from John Edwards...

Raise the Minimum Wage

Where I come from, what matters the most isn't how much you have, it's how hard you're willing to work. Work gives pride, dignity, and hope to our lives and our communities.

But too many families are working full-time and have nothing to show for it. They are raising their kids in poverty and living in fear that one health crisis or pink slip will drive them over the edge. A single mom with two kids who works full-time for the minimum wage is about $2,000 below the poverty line.

The minimum wage has been stuck at $5.15 per hour for ten years - while costs for health care, housing, child care, transportation and everything else have skyrocketed and executive pay has steadily increased. Executives have figured out how to pay themselves more, while paying their workers less. It's a disgrace - but not a surprise - that poverty is up for the fourth year in a row.

It is time - past time - to reward work with an increase in the federal minimum wage.

Senator Ted Kennedy is reaching out to the netroots for help. He has sponsored a bill to increase the minimum wage in three increments to $7.25 an hour. And he's asking us to sign on as citizen co-sponsors of his bill to show the broad base of support in the country for increasing the minimum wage.

We can win this fight. Last year, we were able to get 46 Senators to vote in favor of increasing the minimum wage, even though some supporters were out of town at the time of the vote. We can pass Senator Kennedy's bill this year, but only if people across the nation show they care about the issue.

Senator Kennedy believes in the power of our online community. He's put his faith in us. Now we need to deliver our signatures to him.

www.oneamericacommittee.com/minwagesupporter

You've heard me talk about the two Americas. One America that does the work, another America that reaps the reward. One America that pays the taxes, another America that gets the tax breaks. One America that will do anything to leave its children a better life, another America that never has to do a thing because its children are already set for life.

These concerns are catching fire across the nation. Right now in Arizona, Arkansas, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, and Ohio coalitions are working to increase the minimum wage through ballot initiatives. I am traveling to each of these states to work with local leaders and help energize support on this issue. And I want to take advantage of the momentum growing across the country to pass Senator Kennedy's bill at the national level. All workers - no matter where they live - need a boost in their wages.

Already your strong support for increasing the minimum wage is helping us win this battle. Just this past week, the Republican-led Michigan legislature scrambled to pass minimum wage legislation - even though they had blocked similar proposals for the last 9 years. Republicans also started lining up behind minimum wage legislation in Arkansas earlier this week after years of opposition because they know that people like you are demanding action.

We need you and your friends to sign our minimum wage petition to continue building the momentum in Michigan, Arkansas and all across the country.

www.oneamericacommittee.com/minwagesupporter

Senator Kennedy and I plan to personally deliver your names to Republican Senate leaders. This effort is an important step toward creating One America. One America where you have something to show for it if you work full-time - a savings account, your own home, the chance to live in a good neighborhood with good schools, and the ability to afford college.

Believe me, the lobbyists for the business interests who oppose increasing the minimum wage have tremendous influence over Congress. A broad coalition of grassroots organizations, labor unions and religious groups are working hard to level the playing field. We need to show our strength in numbers -- please encourage your friends and colleagues to become citizen co-sponsors of Senator Kennedy's bill as well.

www.oneamericacommittee.com/minwagesupporter

Thank you for taking action and for all that you do.

Your friend,

John



***** More info @ http://www.oneamericacommittee.com/minimumwage *****

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 02:58 PM
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1. Any Democrat who doesn't campaign on WAGES is a fool
Whatever you do, don't vote for him. He'll stab us all in the back as soon as he can.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:28 PM
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29. You posted the exact same thing on another Edwards thread
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:21 PM
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46. They need to tell voters how the republican party is all about Cheap Labor
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:02 PM
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2. Imagine that.......
"The minimum wage has been stuck at $5.15 per hour for ten years"

Ohio is still at $4.25.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm#Ohio
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:13 PM
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12. That is shameful!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:18 PM
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13. What an understatement!
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 03:21 PM by Zinfandel
Outrageous, disgusting & evil come to mine!!!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:03 PM
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3. Bill Clinton elected-Twice, minimum wage was a large part of his platform!
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 03:19 PM by Zinfandel
The American people want it and so many need it...but the republicans will never bring it up because they love to say it hurts small business, (as if they give a shit about small business) the republicans bullshit lies concerning minimum wage hurting small business, have always been proved wrong...

In reality they just don't want corporations to have to spend even an extra 25 cents on workers, fuck the workers...Republicans only want to protect corporations with a lot of low end workers like McDonald's and Wal-Mart, etc...fucking greedy republicans!
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:06 PM
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4. I'm happy to sign the petition.
Thank you for posting this.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:09 PM
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8. Thank you for signing, azmouse!!!
:hi:
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:06 PM
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5. The Repukes like it this way. Until we get a Dem, dream on.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:08 PM
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6. Until we get a Dem, please make your voice heard & sign on as a co-sponsor
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:09 PM
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7. what? you got to be kidding
really? raise the minimum wage?
are you a crazy?

my god the whole structure of american economy would collapse overnight!

7.25 dollars an hour? never ever happen in another 20 years. the last time i figured the minimum wage increases over the years it averages less than 5 cents a year..
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:10 PM
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10. Not kidding; please sign on as a citizen co-sponsor @
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 03:13 PM by Sapphire Blue
www.oneamericacommittee.com/minwagesupporter

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Michigander4Dean Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:09 PM
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9. K&R | nt
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:11 PM
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11. Thanks, Michigander4Dean!
:hi:

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:29 PM
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14. Get real the republicans will never let it get to the floor...This is an
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 03:35 PM by Zinfandel
election year...many republicans would have to vote for it...Republicans despise the minimum wage...Frist will make sure it never sees the light of day...If buy some chance it did, the White House will prolong it until after the elections, and then veto it, saying it would hurt our "economic recovery"...

I have always signed petitions for an increase (recently and in the past) supported and donated and always will...However, I also know the reality of a one party system in complete power in this country, as the republicans are!!!

Republicans hate workers and hate giving them anything more than nothing...slave labor, outsourcing jobs and paying no taxes is the republican mantra.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:33 PM
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15. Get real; quit being a defeatist!!! Use your voice for economic justice!!!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:47 PM
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18. I always have & will continue to...Truth & reality must also be accepted..
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 03:50 PM by Zinfandel
Nothing worse then people with their head in the sand...just look at electronic voting machines...In order for this to ever get off the ground in this complete republican corporate climate... It would need major media coverage to put pressure on the republicans, do you see that happening? As important, every Democrat needs to be pushing the need for a minimum wage day & night as a campaign issue....It can only come about if the people all across the country are aware and decide that's it of utmost importance and will fight tooth & nail for it!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:48 PM
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19. See Czolgosz's posts 16 & 17.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:43 PM
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17. Only corporatist Republican campaign financiers oppose living wage laws;
most rank and file Republicans support raising the minimum wage:



See post 16 for more details.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:38 PM
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16. Living wage laws are one of our best wedge issues (even most GOP agree).
Here is an excerpt from a great Pew Center study:

"overwhelming support for an increase in the minimum wage extends across all groups, again with the exception of Enterprisers. Overall 86% of the public favors a hike in the minimum wage from its current level of $5.15 to $6.45 per hour. More than 90% of Pro-Government Conservatives, Conservative Democrats, Disadvantaged Democrats and Liberals support such an increase. Among Enterprisers, however, a plurality (49%) opposes the move, although nearly as many (46%) favor it."



<http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=948>.

Every candidate should be talking about this at every opportunity. Enough with letting GOP, Inc. and its wholly owned MSM subsidiary define what issues the next elections is about.

The 2006 elections are about (1) living wages, (2) heath care, (3) no more budget busting tax breaks for the wealthy, (4) fair lobbyist and corporate regulation to promote the people's best interests, and (5) honesty from our government, especially including honesty about this misbegotten unilateral war and the terrible damage at home and abroad that has sprung forth as a result of that war and its human and financial tolls.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:49 PM
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20. Thank you for posting this info, Czolgosz!
:hi:

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:00 PM
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21. Yes indeed! As I stated...Bill Clinton was elected twice with min. wage
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 04:48 PM by Zinfandel
as a major issue, in both his campaigns...But, besides Senator Kennedy, (who the fucking republicans love to ridicule as a drunk) very few democrats have brought up minimum wage as a major national issue...Again, when Clinton was on the national stage, both times, it helped him and he was able to get the minimum wage raised...it's going to take a major democratic push in THIS election season, to be one of their main issues, in a these mid term elections...

And people should be ready for the republicans to fight it with everything they've got, and they'll try with all their immense power that they do have, to make sure the issue gets distorted and is buried with all the other social issues, (as they always do) and make terror and the "booming" economy as the only issues to be discussed, as they have for the last four elections the republicans want, and have controlled the talking points, with their republican owned media's help...

People here, are getting public & media awareness, republican control, hard work & reality, mixed up with calling someone a "defeatist"!
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:05 PM
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22. Good idea, but how practical is this really?
Let's say I'm making $10/hr. Currently minimum wage is $5.15, so I'm making almost double that. If you raise the minimum wage, suddenly I'm not making that much more than the minimum, so now I want a raise. Doesn't this create a ripple effect? Within a few years, you're right back to where you started, and you have to raise the minimum wage yet again.

Don't get me wrong - I'm just wondering if there isn't a better way to help those who are at the bottom of the pay scales. I forget who it was, but didn't someone have an idea to tie the minimum wage to inflation, as inflation rises, so would the minimum wage? We also need to invest more money in training workers so they can get out of these dead-end jobs.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:16 PM
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23. How practical would you think it was if you were making min wage?
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 04:16 PM by Sapphire Blue
These "dead-end jobs" will remain, regardless of the wage paid. Shouldn't minimum wage workers be treated w/respect, rather than being looked down upon because of their employment status in a "dead-end job"? Don't these workers deserve a raise?

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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:56 PM
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26. That's not what I'm saying at all
Of course these "dead-end" jobs will always be around, because society needs them. But don't you agree that we should be focusing on training also, so people who don't want to be stuck in these types of jobs have other opportunities as well?

The simple fact of the matter is that even if we raise the minimum wage to $7.25, within a few short years, even that won't be enough. We need to be working on helping more people obtain education and training.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:18 PM
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28. Minimum wage workers deserve respect & a fair yearly raise.
"... stuck in these types of jobs"? Perhaps if minimum wage workers were treated w/respect, the important (YES, IMPORTANT) work they do would not be looked down upon as "dead-end jobs".
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:30 PM
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30. Once again, I did not say that they didn't
Honestly, though, how many people working these types of jobs would like to be able to get better, higher paying jobs but can't - either because they don't have the education or the training? Honestly, most people who work these minimum wage jobs DO get yearly raises - I know I did years ago when I worked at McDonalds, which is about as "dead-end" as you can get.

And I use the term "dead-end job" because that's honestly what many of these jobs are. If you don't have education or job training, it's very difficult to move ahead.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:41 PM
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34. How many would like to be paid a livable minimum wage for the work...
... that they are doing, "dead-end" or not? How many feel "stuck" because they are paid so little? Does everyone strive to be CEO of some corporation?

Do you propose education & job training to allow everyone to "move ahead"? Who's going to be serving you next time you go to McDonalds? Does the McDonalds employee not deserve a fair wage & respect for their work?

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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:52 PM
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38. Actually, yes I do
I believe that everyone should have access to education or job training, if they choose to. And no, not everyone strives to be a corporate CEO, and some people honestly do enjoy working fast food or Walmart. But there are those who would move ahead if they could, but for whatever reason they just don't have enough education or training to do so. Like I said, minimum wage should be tied to the rate of inflation, so it constantly adjusts itself - rather than being dependent upon the whims of Congress, and at the mercy of whatever party happens to be in power at the time.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:53 PM
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39. Of course we want to expand opportunities...
but not everybody is going to be able to move out of these dead-end jobs. If they did, the dead-end jobs wouldn't get done.

So since somebody's gotta clean the toilets, etc. we should ensure that such jobs pay enough to live on with at least a fair degree of comfort.

That is, take a two-pronged approach: both level the playing field and make sure the consequences of "losing the game" aren't so severe.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:57 PM
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41. Hence the 2nd part of my plan...
Take the politics out of minimum wage! As long as we keep raising the minimum wage every several years, we're leaving these people at the mercy of whichever party is in power at the time. This shouldn't depend on who's in charge. If we tie minimum wage to inflation, then it will continue to rise as long as inflation does - regardless of who's in power.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:24 PM
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24. It makes a big deal because you want to live in an equitable society.
These "dead-end jobs" are what's left now that so many of our skilled labor jobs have been outsourced.

Increasing the minimum wage has a minimal affect on the inflation rate and -- anticipating your next argument -- a negligible effect on the unemployment rate. If you doubt this, you can compare the economies in cities which have minimum wage laws with geographically proximate comparable cities which do not.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:59 PM
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27. LOL
You sound like you're trying to debate a GOPher. I think this idea that raising the minimum wage will lead to a rise in unemployment is total bullshit.

No, my point is that it seems that inflation is rising faster than the minimum wage. Instead of merely raising the minimum wage every several years, why not tie it to inflation, so that it rises along with inflation? And at the same time, pump more money into education and training so that people who don't want to be stuck working minimum wage jobs can get better jobs.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:06 PM
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25. ...
:kick:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:34 PM
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31. K&R with pleasure !
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:37 PM
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32. Raising the Minimum Wage and Stem-Cell Research
Why our Democratic leaders aren't making these two winner issues a priority in any national campaign has always befuddled me.

This is a travesty.

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:42 PM
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35. Welcome to DU, rhombus!
:hi: :hi: :hi:
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:45 PM
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36. Hi there
:toast:
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:38 PM
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33. Where is this one John Edwards site?
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:48 PM
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37. Yes, it's legitimate... here's the correct link for "The Letter to Snow"
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 08:49 PM by Sapphire Blue
TELL SNOW HE'S DEAD WRONG: http://ga3.org/campaign/lettertosnow


One America Committee: http://www.oneamericacommittee.com
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:56 PM
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40. So where's this link
on http://www.oneamericacommittee.com ? I don't see John Edwards site linking to the actual petition.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:59 PM
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42. Both were sent by email which you can sign up for @
http://www.oneamericacommittee.com (upper left on the page)
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:06 PM
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44. I've checked my email and I didn't get this?
I signed up again. I don't understand why this is not on linked on his actual website. How do we know if this is real or somebody collecting information and passing it around for more?
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:17 PM
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45. Perhaps you should address any further questions (or suspicions) to:
infooac@oneamericacommittee.com or you can call 1-202-955-4511. :tinfoilhat:


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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:37 PM
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48. Sorry that I'm suspicious....
but there is one candidate's supporters that ran in 2004 and will probably run in 2008 that I am suspicious of. (hint: It's not John Edwards.) I'm just looking out for John Edwards and supporters. I'm for raising the minimum wage and will support this if legitimate.

Thanks for the info.


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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:25 PM
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50. If you're "looking out for John Edwards and supporters", perhaps you...
... shouldn't spread unfounded suspicions.

You can also sign on to be a citizen co-sponsor for a minimum wage increase @ Senator Kennedy's website: http://kennedy.senate.gov/index_high.html or http://kennedy.senate.gov/index_low.html

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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:06 PM
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43. Bad economics but good politics...
...I say Democrats ought to run hard on the minimum wage issue. The minimum wage referendum passed in FL in 04 with lots of Republican support.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:30 PM
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47. I am reluctant to sign this timid and inadequate proposal
Though I appreciate your motive, Saphire Blue, and I absolutely support raising the Federal Minimum Wage. It is a gross injustice that any employer can get away with paying anyone - for any job anywhere, the current Federal Min (States can and do raise the minimum on a State level).

To raise the minimum wage to its' 1968 level would take it to over $8hr, last I looked. Locally, we are working on getting a Minimum Living Wage passed - roughly $10hr (I won't go into all the details). This would take a one-job family of four JUST to Federal Poverty Guideline IF the worker had year-round full-time employment. Many minimum wage jobs do not provide that level of hours, so it is unlikely that even a two-minimum Living Wage family of four would be living in any luxury.

Why is Senator Kennedy - one of our better Senators, to be sure - putting forth this timid proposal? What will $7.25 equal in two years? The FPG are adjusted each year. Will it take a single mother of one or two UP TO poverty level in a few years?

I agree that the Dems should campaign on wages, that would certainly give those of us going door-to-door a reason to exhort people to get registered and GOTV.

But I would like to see them put forward more than this meagre proposal - even if it got bargained down, what a selling point against the R's (I hope only Rs) who fight it - they will have to go on record as against fair, living wages for workers. THAT would give me an answer when the poor and disenfranchised on whose doors I knock tell me there is no reason to go out and vote because "they're all the same."
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:48 PM
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49. I agree that $7.25 is inadequate.
I would hope that when we have a Democratic Congress next year, they will approve a substantial increase to provide a livable minimum wage... and rescind bush's tax cuts for the rich.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:22 PM
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53. You bet
Signed kicked and recommended
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:59 AM
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51. done !! and thanks again for the smiley lesson..



Blue...I love them !!

Dem
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:37 AM
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52. ...

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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:23 PM
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54. I just signed
It's a great start!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 11:30 AM
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55. kick
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 11:34 AM
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56. index the minimum wage to the actual cost of living
AND index the maximum wage to the minimum wage
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 11:56 AM
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57. Aaaah, you'd be talking about a LIVABLE minimum wage, which $7.25/hr ISN'T
The resistance to raising the minimum wage to a paltry $7.25/hr is disgusting; it should have been that much many, many years ago. I like your idea. :hi:

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