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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:36 PM
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How far does Bush's mental slide have to go before he's declared unfit?
I have watched his last few appearances, and then I watched a tape of Bush stumping in 1999.

My god, it is like night and day.

And to think I thought he was about the stupidest motherfucker on the planet in '99!

He is slurring, confabulating, losing his thread of thought, and reacting to things that don't appear to be there.

I really think we are looking at a form of alcoholic dementia known as Korsakov's Syndrome;


Korsakov's syndrome (amnesic syndrome)

A syndrome associated with chronic prominent impairment of recent memory; remote memory is sometimes impaired, while immediate recall is preserved. Disturbances of time sense and ordering of events are usually evident, as are difficulties in learning new material. Confabulation may be marked but is not invariably present. Other cognitive functions are usually relatively well preserved and amnesic defects are out of proportion to other disturbances.


What do y'all think?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:39 PM
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1. i'm so beyond caring WHAT illness he's got
let's just impeach the motherfucker and let his private physician worry about the details.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:42 PM
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2. No argument here! n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:42 PM
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5. Get rid of Cheney first
unless you want only a window dressing impeachment.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:42 PM
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3. The ten year difference movie
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:42 PM
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4. If Reagan is any example,
when he gets planted. And even then, it's whisker close.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:43 PM
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6. if he drank for twenty-plus years . . .
. . . and binged on world-class blow for most of that time, yup. He's fried. And the stress of being the most hated man since Adolf has pushed his feeble mind over the edge.

Take the nukular football AWAY NOW!!!
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:49 AM
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18. I think he is MORE hated than Adolf, worldwide.
There are more people now, and many more of them have been affected negatively by Bush than Hitler was able to touch.

I honestly believe that George W. Bush is the most widely disliked human being in the history of the race.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:56 PM
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19. you're right.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:46 PM
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7. Ben, have you read "Bush On The Couch?"
The reason I ask is that I don't see a "mental slide"...a see a "wearing away of the facade" or whatever the appropriate term is, but I think we're just seeing the same guy the insiders have seen all along. The Korsakov's syndrome analysis may be accurate, but I just think that he is no longer able to be managed / medicated / whatever. I think he's stopped caring about how he's seen by the public, and with Rush Limbaugh on the radio every day calling him a "manly man" for "sticking to his principles," where's his motivation to change?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00076F0M0/qid=1142998868/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-8001206-3767911?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

Editorial Reviews

From Publishers Weekly
Bush Administration policies are not only a "great catastrophe" but the products of a disturbed mind, according to this provocative blend of psychological case-study and partisan polemic. Psychoanalyst Frank sifts through family memoirs, the writings of critics like Al Franken and David Corn and the public record of Bush’s personal idiosyncrasies for clues to the President’s character, interpreting the evidence in the rigidly Freudian framework of child psychoanalyst Melanie Klein. He finds that Bush, psychically scarred by an absentee father and a cold, authoritarian mother, has developed a galloping case of megalomania, characterized by a Manichaean worldview, delusions of persecution and omnipotence and an "anal/sadistic" indifference to others’ pain, with removal from office the only "treatment option." The author’s exegesis of Bush’s personality traits-the drinking problem, the bellicose rhetoric, the verbal flailings and misstatements of fact, the religiosity and exercise routines, the hints of dyslexia and hyperactivity, the youthful cruelty to animals and schoolmates, the smirk-paints an intriguing, if exaggerated and contemptuous, portrait of a possibly troubled public figure. But Frank’s attempts to translate psychoanalysis into political analysis are unconvincing. Indeed, if Bush’s reneging on campaign promises is a form of clinical "sadism," and his budget deficits an "unconscious attack on his own parents," then Karl Rove, the Cabinet, and both houses of Congress belong in group therapy with him.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

Book Description

"I don't spend a lot of time trying to figure me out. ... I'm just not into psychobabble."

-- George W. Bush
For all his simplicity and affability, George W. Bush has remained, to paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill, "a mystery wrapped in an enigma." In Bush on the Couch, Dr. Justin A. Frank, a well-respected Washington, D.C.–based psychoanalyst and professor of psychiatry, unwraps that mystery, assembling a comprehensive psychological profile of President Bush. Using the principles of applied psychoanalysis -- the discipline of psychoanalyzing public and historical figures pioneered by Freud -- Frank fearlessly builds his case ... and reaches conclusions that are at once highly persuasive and deeply disturbing.

Through a close analysis of Bush's public statements and behavior, as well as the historical record provided by journalists, biographers, and those who have known the president well, Frank traces the development of Bush's character from childhood to the present day. Examining closely the role of the president's parents -- especially Barbara Bush, an acknowledged disciplinarian whose own insecurities may have prevented her from adequately nurturing her son -- Frank finds in Bush's childhood the roots of a dramatic psychic split that remains a dominant influence on his adult worldview. Frank argues that this split has inevitably hampered Bush's ability to manage his emotions, charging his psyche with restless anxiety, and conditioning him to view the world in the black-and-white terms that have so evidently shaped his administration.

Among the other subjects Frank explores:

Bush's false sense of omnipotence, instilled within him during childhood and emboldened by his deep investment in fundamentalist religion

The president's history of untreated alcohol abuse, and the questions it raises about denial, impairment, and the enabling streak in our culture

The growing anecdotal evidence that Bush may suffer from dyslexia, ADHD, and other thought disorders

His comfort living outside the law, defying international law in his presidency as boldly as he once defied DUI statutes and military reporting requirements

His love-hate relationship with his father, and how it triggered a complex and dangerous mix of feelings including yearning, rivalry, anger, and sadism

Bush's rigid and simplistic thought patterns, paranoia, and megalomania -- and how they have driven him to invent adversaries so that he can destroy them
At once a compelling portrait of George W. Bush and a damning indictment of his policies, Bush on the Couch sheds startling new light on an administration whose record of violence and cruelty seems increasingly dependent on the unstable psyche of the man at its center. Insightful and accessible, courageous and controversial, Bush on the Couch tackles the question no one seems willing to ask: Is our president psychologically fit to run the country?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00076F0M0.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:44 PM
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13. No, but I should.
I'll see if the Library has it
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:48 PM
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8. "They" must know he is nutz.
"they" being repugs in Washington ..... his

"It hit the benchmark so the slices in the pie and I am hardened ......" rough quote
gibberish today should show the world that he is nuttier than a squirrel turd.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:49 PM
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9. * has been a space case for years.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:56 PM
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10. It is incredible, ain't it?
I just heard from some conservative old-timers I know - they are now saying they HATE Bush!... yes, there are daiquiris of all flavours being served in Hell right now. :D :applause:

What do I think? I think he better get started building that rocketship to Mars, because his former supporters are gonna do mean things to him. :hide:


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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:42 PM
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11. Heh... Not likely meth...
He'd have lost his hair by now.

But you know, he commands the DEA and they seize a LOT of cocaine...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:43 PM
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12. all the way to wherever the fucking bottom is
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:22 AM
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14. Sadly, I believe this.
And I think he'll drag the USA down with him.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:44 AM
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15. Infinitely low. he could name his horse Senator and wouldn't be declared
unfit.

You see, Ben, the chief characteristic of a Caeser, a Hitler, a Bush is that they understand the basic fragility of civilization and Constitution. If one side "plays by the rules" and the other has absolutely no regard for them, the first side is mown down like Pompey and the Roman Repoublicans, the German Social Democrats of 1933, or the American Democratic party of 2006.

They are handcuffed, bedazzled and befuddled by their own acceptance of the Social Compact.

Your Caesers, Hitlers, and Bushes unmask that fragility and say, in essence, "To stop me you will have to arrest me or worse...and I will be more than happy to further step outside the social compact and have MY followers initiate Civil War."

By that means, EVERY crisis, in essence, becomes the Final Crisis. Either arrest him or back, thus making all of his actions retroactively legal.

Becuase Free Peoples are accustomed to using a Last Resort...well...only as a last resort, they are forced to back down time and time again.

Thus The Leader is strengthened by each victorious clash and his aura of inevitability grows.

Caeser did it successfully. Hitler did it successfully. I hate to say it, but for all the hope that current exposre of Bush malfeasance/incompetence are generating, Bush has thus far done it with staggering, freedom-killing success.

Even now, Bush and his Courtiers will fight doggedly to the bitter end. And if Bush isn not arrested and dragged out in chains, then he goes on.

And yes, even if he named his horse Senator, it would be the same. Unless the Congress (a more cowed bunch of toadies the world has not seen SINCE 1933) send the police in to take him out in a straight-jacket or manacles...he just keeps on keeping on.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:46 AM
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16. I believe Bush is losing it right now - numbers will go below Cheney.s
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:34 AM
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17. You may be right...
...but how does that matter. He is in office til January '09 no matter how many of us wish he would dry up and blow away.
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