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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:17 PM
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offshore outsourcing study suppressed
Congress Dems need your help in getting a study on the true effects of offshore outsourcing released.

Believe it or not, this study was sponsored and requested BY CONGRESS and now that the Commerce department
doesn't like what it reveals...is trying to deny congress to see the very study they requested be done!

I did a diary on dailykos on this here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/24/132216/297
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:24 PM
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1. Does anyone know of an example of where offshoring
american jobs ever led to any meaningful net job gain in the US? Even in the long run?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:26 PM
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2. It hasn't, of course
It's all total bullshit, along with trickle down, supply side, "free" trade, and all the monumental heap of total right wing garbage that has buried the American working class for the past 37 years.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:35 PM
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5. I can't think of a single example where the tide was turned
as a result of "new prosperity" in a foreign country, where workers in the USA benefited by increased demands for our goods and services. Not a single example.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:48 PM
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8. The inflation figures have been kept artificially flat
due to the importation of goods made by cheaper hands overseas, thus continuing to justify wage suppression here.

If you want to know the real inflation rate, look at the things produced 100% here: healthcare and housing.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:32 PM
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3. sure
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 04:15 PM by mdmc
Cole Haan (footwear) / Nike (footwear). These company's create their crap in Asia and create regional jobs marketing and selling in America.
The American company (Nike) makes a fortune marketing and selling footwear.
Asian companies make the footwear. Third party multi-nationals transport the footwear.
Cole Haan used to make shoes in America. Now Cole Haan footwear is made in Asia. Cole Haan is much bigger now, even though 200 people lost their manufacturing jobs.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:34 PM
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4. HELP
Can anyone help me out in getting the word out on this?

My damn diary received only 10 comments and if this story sinks into oblivion it will surely take the study with it.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:43 PM
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7. done....hope it helps...
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:53 PM
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9. THANK YOU!!!! n/t
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:17 PM
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10. what is it that you want us to do?
:kick:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:42 PM
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6. Bigger warehouses perhaps.
To contain cheap imported goods.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:21 PM
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11. No, now there are more Nike stores, Nike apparel
and Cole Haan merchandise. Cole Haan went from about 700 employess (300 manufacturing) to about 4,500 employees (all making $9.00 in retail outlets).

America is real good at selling ideas and services. We are not good at making shit, compared to third country employees.
Or to put it another way, $6.00 per hour is not very motivational in America. $6.00 per hour is a very successful wage in China.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:56 PM
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12. It's sort of apples and oranges. It's just more walmart variety
employees selling imported goods to one another. As far as it goes, Cole Haan is dead and exists in name only. If those people weren't working for this Cole-Haan thing they would be working at some other retail place selling some other imported junk. And, who knows how long that one will last? I suspect Cole-Haan's popularity and longevity was largely due the cache of being a quality high end US made brand.
The big "Nike-Town" near where I live has been closed for years.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:10 PM
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13. It is about profits
Cole Haan did "so well" with outsourcing, it was able to be "gobbled up" by Nike. Cole Haan did have a reputation for quality, it still has a shred of that reputation in tact.

Outsourcing is profitable. Outsourcing saves consumers money. Outsourcing makes walmart possible.

Once Americans prefer to buy American over buying cheap, outsourcing will disappear. Americans will always look out for themselves and never look out for their countryman. Outsourcing is here to stay. Americans deserve outsourcing.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:16 PM
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14. BTW, thanks for the tip on Cole-Haan, I'll stick with Allen Edmonds
and Red Wing!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:27 PM
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15. Johnson and Murphy are made in the USA
All of the Europeans treat their workers with respect (Gucci, Tod's, Prada). I also like Kenneth Cole, although his shit is all Asian made.

:kick:
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:36 PM
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16. We already know the results
record trade defecits...
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