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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:36 PM
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Just finished watching The Constant Gardner
like I needed to get more pissed off at big pharma companies...

If you haven't seen it I would highly recommend it. Within the context of a love story, it is a very realistic look at how the drug industry operates. Won't say anymore so as not to spoil it.

Makes me look forward to Michael Moore's next project, which I believe is an expose of big pharma. These scum are just as bad as the oil companies and arms manufacturers.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:38 PM
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1. i agree. beautiful film
left me weeping with rage
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:39 PM
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2. Hey, me too!
We started it a couple days ago and our Netflix disc zapped out in the middle, so when we got the replacement in the mail today we had to finish it. It was an excellent movie and unfortunately, all too believable.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:40 PM
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3. If you haven't, read the book. it's an in-depth look at what
could be or probably is happening with lots of drugs. They think they have their very own test field in countries with poverty and no protection from their government. :grr:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:41 PM
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4. Like the quote from the movie
50,000 in anyone's gets you the trial results you want.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:42 PM
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5. Not the movie to make you feel good about Pharma is it ?
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 10:51 PM by MazeRat7
I was pissed for a week after watching that... great movie, excellent points, etc..etc... recommended for those that have not seen it.

MZr7

(edit: I really liked Pharama better... but I'll go with the "correct" spelling....)
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:44 PM
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6. Damn It! I'm Stuck In A Hotel...
room, I have a voucher for a free movie and this is a selection. Thing is I'm really not in the mood for a depressing movie. Should I just do it?

Jay
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:47 PM
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8. Yes... do it. Its worth it. Esp if you are stuck in a hotel.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:48 PM
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9. Not unless you're on a caffeine high
This is a movie you really have to watch, and give yourself time to get into. If you're remotely tired, you'll zonk right out; unless you really really love lots of dialogue and movies that build slowly. It's good, it just takes a while.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:51 PM
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12. What's The Run Time?
Jay
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:53 PM
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14. A bit under 2hrs, I think. n/t
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:49 PM
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10. go for it. A great film is always the good choice.
Much better option than 8 minutes of a porno
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:01 PM
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17. I'm Going To Check It Out Tomorrow Night...
It's late and I'll have a chance to get some :popcorn: and :beer:. I've got Internet access to take care of the 8 minutes to boot.:blush:

Jay
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:09 AM
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22. Thanks For The Rec. (SPOILER ALERT)
It just finished. Very well done and rather than depressing me, it made me feel small. ...almost helpless. As strange as this sounds, I was glad that there wasn't a ramboesque, hero saves the day ending. I thought it was going to come to that when Quayle was presented with the pistol. It made the movie all the more real.

Jay
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:53 PM
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13. This is a depressing movie
It is a very good film, but don't be talked into it if you really don't want to watch a film that will make you angry and/or upset, because it will. I waited until I was in the right frame of mind to watch it, myself, and I'm glad I did see it, but only then.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:55 PM
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15. I really appreciate that advice. Increasingly, I find I must be in the
proper frame of mind for a given film. I'm not sure why.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:01 PM
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18. Same here.
I guess on some levels, I'm not as emotionally flexible or open as I used to be. Well, I know that I'm not, not right now. I used to watch anything, any time, if it was good or just interesting. Now, I won't unless I'm in the frame of mind to watch it, or it seduces me into it unexpectedly.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:00 PM
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16. You know, I didn't find it depressing.
Sad in some ways, yes, but not depressing because she was such a fighter and (without giving too much away) some things were accomplished. It speaks to the power that even one person can have if they are willing to fight and how important the fight itself is, even if it seems hopeless.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:04 PM
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19. Yes, it was a strong message of the power of activism
On the one hand. It was a heroine's story, too. I guess it just made me think about the reality of the premise, and even if only half as bad as it was portrayed, it infuriates me.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:46 PM
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7. Just how much gardening is there in this film?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:49 PM
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11. More than I expected...
Actually. :)

Good film. But depressing, yes.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:19 AM
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23. the husband does the gardening, in a literal sense
but the title is an allegorical nod to the work of the wife.

Other who who have viewed: please tell me if I am all wet on this interpretation.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:05 PM
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20. my boss just got back from working in Kenya for 2 years ...
He says that the filmmakers did not exaggerate the extent of the poverty. If anything, the slums outside Nairobi (shown in the film) are much WORSE than what is depicted -- no services, no medical care, etc. for >400,000 people.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:26 PM
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21. The Kenya scenes were bad, but the Sudan scenes
were terrifying. Thre was one scene after a raid where a little girl, looked like maybe 5 or 6, was standing amidst the acrnage, holding a puppy on a leash, with no one else around. It was truly gut-wrenching.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:20 AM
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24. It's a great book.....
I was enthralled....
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:22 AM
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25. You should also check out LORD OF WAR
It's in the same vein as The Constant Gardener, but it deals with illegal arms trading, blood diamonds, etc. I highly recommend it.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:02 AM
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26. Did you see "why we fight?"
Did not get much exposure on DU as Fahrenheit 911 even though it is a better movie. It did not just touched on 9/11 but how the whole military industrial complex has shaped the U.S. as we know it.

And it uses non-liberal to expose it.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 09:46 AM
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28. Saw it several times.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:03 AM
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27. Realistic?
Um, isn't this a complete work of fiction? C'mon now..
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