The end is beginning

That's what I think anyway. They powered their way to dominance. And while sitting on top of the world, they saw their own reflections and were very satisfied. Finally the perfect chance to implement the conservative neocon agenda. They had the military, the state, the church, the media, and enough lunatic followers to justify and lie and steal and lie some more.

But it didn't work out so well. And today they are the enemies of the world, and failing at everything.

The backlash will be tremendous. Not only a disgust for all that is conservative, but also the menace known as religion. All those characters we have come to associate with promoting their paradigm that only enriches themselves, will be thrown on a heap of decay.

It's our turn now muthafucka. So you don't like the ideas of the left, huh? Tough shit. Your war and death will be replaced with Social Healthcare for all. No more offshoring you corporate hyennas. You're going to pay taxes again. Access to politicians will not be to the highest bidder. Public funding of elections will take the graft out of government. You'll also be thrilled that you will no longer have an easy time polluting the environment. Have I mentioned how much you suck? Gays will marry, yeah, eat that Robertson. Faithed based is over. People rotting in prisons for minor drug offenses will be set free.

A Renaissance is inevitable after a dark era. This time pals, let's get everything we ever dreamed. They were relentless in their pursuits. We should be too.

No, forget it. That was 1968.

Redstone

I was watching some German film on the last days of the 3rd reich (Downfall) on tv and I'm thinking, 'now that is what the end looks like when psycho-bastards get control of a government'. We've got a very long way to go before we get to the end of this crap.

They'll try and make a little more, but they got back what they lost in the 90's.

because that's the decade when the biggest increase in wealth disparity took place. Raising the taxes 3% on the richest didn't stop the process of wealth concentration at the top. If anything, it incrased it.

But you're right, this is the final feeding frenzy before the crash that's coming, whether through a housing bust, an expanded war, or simply bankrupting the country to feed the Pentagon.

Any change will have to spring from the ashes. I just hope "ahses" is only a metaphor.

was so booming that it had to be slowed down (some economic BS). I miss the 90's. Not only was I ten years younger (real plus), but the country didn't become divided until the impeachment of Clinton. That is when the split started and it has gotten worse ever since. They impeached him because they could, that is the only reason and it's still pathetic.

over this all these years so I hesitate to say that the end is beginning but this time I think you just may be right. There have been so many times that it should have been but the shit is really hitting the fan right now.

I am afraid it is going to be a long, difficult ride now and not too safe but if that is the way it must be then it will be worth it just to get them out of there.

Backlash? Damn, it will be ugly once people hear the things we have known for all this time. Think we are mad? Imagine how angry you would be if you voted for these fuckers and believed in them.

Now that they have it, they won't give it up easily. They are sociopaths who play by their own rules. We can't even begin to imagine the depths they are willing to plunge and the horrors they are capable of committing to keep the plundering a satisfying and rewarding reality for themselves. Like any addict, they will say and do anything to keep the game going.

"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness; only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all of the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. "...."1984" by George Orwell.

thrown in prison for war crimes. They can't let that happen.

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

-- Percy Bysshe Shelley

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

WB Yeats The Second Coming


the pendulum swings.
dp

They may get some mercy, but WILL NOT be forgiven!

Not by me.

For six years the Republicans have had control of government. Pledging to shrink the government, they grew it. Pledging not to engage in nation-building, they involved us in the biggest clusterf*ck since Vietnam. Pledging to unite, not divide, they divided like Hell.

Roosevelt was able to get so much done largely because the people felt the party of Hoover to be so discredited. The number one adjective people associate with Bush today is "incompetent." every time a republican opens their mouth to spew their nonsense, we should be there to say "You tried that and it didn't work."

I completely and totally agree.

And the coolest thing about that is our pursuits don't endanger
the American Dream.

There's on the other hand has become the American Nightmare.

"Your war and death will be replaced with Social Healthcare for all. No more offshoring you corporate hyennas. You're going to pay taxes again. Access to politicians will not be to the highest bidder. Public funding of elections will take the graft out of government. You'll also be thrilled that you will no longer have an easy time polluting the environment. Have I mentioned how much you suck? Gays will marry, yeah, eat that Robertson. Faithed based is over. People rotting in prisons for minor drug offenses will be set free."

What a wonderful world it would be........

The Repugs have sown the wind. What has made them strong is also their greatest weakness. Now the GOP is warning House Repugs to not run away from Bush policies while campaigning for November. They are boxed into their own ideology and cannot escape. Let them reap the whirlwind.

Here's what Churchill said about Reaping the Whirlwind. (Recorded live in Guild Hall, 30 Jun 1943, upon Churchill receiving the "Freedom of the City of London")

About 13 minutes, 3.2 MB. MP3 audio.
Reaping the Whirlwind
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and we are fighting an unarmed enemy.

Are you working under the presumption that the Republican party will collapse and a new party will form to bring forth this agenda?

it's about people. The next party is ours. Politicians better beware.

The kind of revolutionary change you speak of will have to come from outside of the current power structure; but I just don't see any great movement to that effect. It could well be that catastrophe is on the horizon and the whole system will collapse and out of that will come a better system where more enlightened ideas can be advanced.

I don't think the fall of this administration and Democratic Party control of Congress and the White House would amount to much in terms of progress. In fact, the best chance of a progressive revolution, without catastrophe, would come from the collapse of the Democratic Party.

Actually, I see the looming implosion of the Bush administration as rather ominous, to an extent that we probably would be better off with catastrophe. The next incarnation of the Republican Party will be even more fundamentalist and more authoritarian on the home front. The major change, I'd guess, would be an isolationist, jingoistic (North Korea-like) foreign policy. And as long as they continue to play the Jesus card, their base will follow them wherever they go.

I hate to be a pessimist. But the real problem is that they own the voting machines. With this in their pocket, they will continue down this road and things will get worse until the people rise up.

the only other way out is if the president gets indicted, but that would still not solve much because that wouldn't change the party in control, just put another puppet in his place.

we have to deal with the voting machines, and everything else will fall into place.

that's the problem in a nutshell

Edited to add: If we can get honest voting back (NO ES&S, NO DIEBOLD and that other company) I'm certain most Americans would vote the GOP/NEOCONS OUT for a long, long time.

But I agree. Without legitimate voting, we are screwed.

Scandanavian mythology. When the old warlike gods all die because people don't believe in them nor fear them anymore.

.... that the Republicans have had their power and abused it so thoroughly and failed so miserably with their sounds-good-too-bad-it-don't-work policies that they will be out of favor for a long time.

The only questions that only the future can answer are:

1) are we really near the end or will they manage to hold on to power for 1, 2, or 10 more years, and

2) when the condition of America reaches it's Republican-induced nadir, will it be so weak that it takes 2, 5, or 20 years to get back on its feet.

Unfortunately, I believe that groups of people never solve a problem until it is undeniable to even the most deluded that there is a problem. We're not there yet. Even with all of Bush**'s and the Republicans dissaproval, there are still lots of Americans (not just the fundie morons either, they are a lost cause) who don't understand what Bush** has done and why. This will take a while.

We need more of the same. :applause:

We need to rub it in just like they did. We need to keep the outrages coming so fast they don't have time to concentrate on just one. Legal marijuana, gay marriage, taxing the rich, taxing religious groups, anything and everything goes. Pay back's a bitch!

Forget it ...the Establishment entire has way too much riding on the "new" direction of the empire. Look at how infrastructure, the ideology, the vast Orwellian surveillance, domestic and foreign policy, everything is riding on the calculated ruse of 9/11, and without exposing that, nothing will change, even if a "moderate" DINO/hawk is "allowed" to win in 08 - provided we make it that far - in order to apply a "friendlier" face to the fascism. And with so many people and corporations making out from war profiteering and being complicit in the cover up of 9/11, there's simply no way 'this' is going to 'end' anytime soon.

will have a chance to make changes that really need to be made. Because of their overreaching. From these ashes will rise a much better country for all.

All of the various businesses who know that 9/11 and the "war on terror" is a fabrication, all of those people who are overseeing how power operates are suddenly going to apply the brakes once the neocons and their puppet are gone from the white house? Keep dreaming.

Peace

beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
of our elaborate plans, the end
of everything that stands, the end .....

The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die
This is the end."
-- James Douglas Morrison

I think that The Doors will have to be included on any soundtrack for a history of the Bush-Cheney administration.

I thought of that song not long ago and almost had to go digging into the heap to find/hear it. Think I will now...

with the video of all those bobbing parrots. :)

It's been a long time comin'
It's goin' to be a long time gone.
And it appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long time,
Yes, a long, long, long, long time,
Before the dawn.

Turn, turn any corner.
Hear, you must hear what the people say,
You know there's something that's goin' on around here,
That surely, surely, surely won't stand the light of day.
And it appears to be a long, (yes it does)
Appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long time,
Such a long, long, time,
Before the dawn.

Speak out, you got to speak out against the madness
You got to speak your mind,
If you dare.
But don't, no don't no try to get yourself elected.
If you do you had better cut your hair.
And it appears to be a long, (yes it does)
Appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time,
Such a long, long, long, long time,
Before the dawn.

It's been a long time comin',
It's going to be a long time gone.
But you know, the darkest hour,
Is always, always just before the dawn.
And it appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long time,
Such a long, long, long, long time before the dawn