We are officially on the runaway train to crazy town

rpannier

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Wed Mar-29-06 12:56 AM
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We are officially on the runaway train to crazy town

when Oliver North is the voice of reason.

North's take on the use of torture.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

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BuyingThyme

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Wed Mar-29-06 01:00 AM
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1. I can't look. What's his take? I'm going to base my position on it.

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rpannier

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Wed Mar-29-06 01:47 AM
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2. He says torture doesn't work, has never worked

in fact it quite often gives you erroneous information.

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BuyingThyme

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Wed Mar-29-06 02:04 AM
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5. He's the moderate voice of the Republican Party.

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rpannier

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Wed Mar-29-06 04:10 AM
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12. And that's very disturbing

when Oliver North is now the moderate.

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Hobarticus

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Wed Mar-29-06 02:05 AM
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6. ....the same thing every military man w/o a "thing" for torture

has been saying all along.

Yah, it is grim when "shredder" becomes the voice of reason.

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EFerrari

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Wed Mar-29-06 01:49 AM
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3. I can't look either. And I don't know why he isn't Sec of the Treasury.

That bloody sonuvabitch got a lot of people killed. He's a natch for the Bush administration job and a Congresional medal.

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BuyingThyme

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Wed Mar-29-06 02:03 AM
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4. You make a good point. They put Negroponte in there, so

why not North?

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EFerrari

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Wed Mar-29-06 02:18 AM
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7. I used to translate for Roxanne Dunbar Ortiz.

Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 02:20 AM by sfexpat2000

During our f@cking with Nicaragua.

It was so strange for me, to be translating conversations that our government claimed were not happening. (Because if the two sides weren't talking, then we had a reason to interfere.)

Her last book thinks about how the tactics we used there have been exported to Iraq. "Blood on the Border".

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0896087417/qid=1143616490/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-4599270-4220667?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

These are the people who are ruining this country right now, the same effen people.

/awful typing

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BuyingThyme

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Wed Mar-29-06 02:43 AM
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10. Wow, thanks for sharing!

Same people, same effen methods.

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EFerrari

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Wed Mar-29-06 02:48 AM
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11. You bet. And those death squads that have appeared in Iraq

aren't just an accident.

We put them there.

This will never stop until we stop it.

peace, Buying Thyme.

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MikeNY

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Wed Mar-29-06 02:22 AM
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8. THE REASON NOT TO USE TORTURE IS NOT THAT IT DOESN"T WORK

ITS THAT IT IS WRONG. PERIOD.

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EFerrari

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Wed Mar-29-06 02:25 AM
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9. It's wrong, it puts our people in danger and it doesn't work.

I can't believe we are even having to say this.

I don't recognize my country.

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Solly Mack

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Wed Mar-29-06 04:14 AM
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13. You know, I wouldn't care if North said Iraq is a war crime

He's still a crook. He still betrayed the country. He's walking about free when he, like the rest, should still be in prison for their roles in Iran-Contra.

America fell through the looking glass a long, long time ago.

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