liveoaktx

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Fri Mar-31-06 10:58 AM
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Official Censure Hearing Thread # 6 - Judiciary Committee

Link to 5

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liveoaktx

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Fri Mar-31-06 10:59 AM
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1. Fein on point- Leahy up

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liveoaktx

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:00 AM
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5. Leahy-Dean on Censure-more to say he can't break the law but

has to come to Congress.

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Norquist Nemesis

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Fri Mar-31-06 10:59 AM
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2. Leahy up now

Please, Pat!!! Please????

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stop the bleeding

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Fri Mar-31-06 10:59 AM
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3. You rock our DEMS don't n/t

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The Witch

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:00 AM
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4. Leahy up please kick his ass pat!!!

:cry: puweeeeze :cry:

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Coexist

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:00 AM
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6. "he outta come to Congress... (to) make sure he is following the law."

Yes.

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Norquist Nemesis

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:01 AM
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7. Dem Senator's numbers (Thanks Witch!)

Joe Biden
202-224-5042
state: Wilmington 302-573-6345
state: Milford 302-424-8090

DiFi
202-22403841
state: LA 310-914-7300
state: San Diego 619-231-9712
state: San Fran 415-393-0707
state: Fresno 559-485-7430

Dick Durbin
202-224-2152
State: springfield 217-492-4062
state: chicago 312-353-4952
state: marion 618-998-8812

Ted Kennedy
202-224-4543
state: boston 617-565-3170

Chuckie
202-224-6542
state: nyc 212-486-4430
state: buffalo 716-846-4111
state: albany 518-431-4070
state: binghamton: 607-772-6792
state: hudson valley 914-285-9741
state: long island 631-753-0978
state: rochester 585-263-5866
state: syracuse 315-423-5471

GO!

Qs: 'Why isn't the Senator attending today's meeting of the Judiciary Committee?"
"Why not?"
"Doesn't he think the testimony important?"
"Doesn't he think the issue worth debating?

I'm not good. I'm not nice. I'm just right.
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dogday

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:02 AM
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difi is 202-224-3841

EVERYONE CALL ALL OF THESE SENATORS PLEASE!!!!

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liveoaktx

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:01 AM
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8. On convicted felons testifying on committee-except for pres pardons

a whole bunch of the Bush administration wouldn't have positions of power. Since when does conviction bother Republicans?

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myrna minx

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:01 AM
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9. I am horrified that most of our Dems are AWOL.

Thank you Russ and Pat.

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liveoaktx

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:02 AM
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13. As someone said before, this is a spanking line

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Norquist Nemesis

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:02 AM
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15. There ARE times these guys should REALIZE they need to

FALL IN LINE!!! This is one of them.

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Coexist

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:03 AM
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16. this is a committee hearing

are they the only two dem committee members there?

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myrna minx

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:05 AM
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31. Yep. The rest are absent.

:cry: :grr:

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Norquist Nemesis

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:02 AM
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10. Leahy: What if we had actually DECLARED war

gee, That's an excellent point. Maybe you should keep saying that..."WAR HAS NOT BEEN DECLARED!"

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Viva_La_Revolution

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:02 AM
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11. Dean's comments have hit the wires!

Nixon aide: Bush wiretaps exceed Watergate crimes

By LAURIE KELLMAN
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Nixon White House counselor John Dean, testifying in behalf of a Democratic resolution to censure President Bush, asserted Friday that Bush's conduct in connection with domestic spying exceeds the wrongdoing that toppled his former boss from power.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, fired back by telling Democrats: "Quit trying to score political points."

The Senate, Dean said, should censure or officially scold Bush as proposed by Sen. Russell Feingold's resolution. But if that action carries too much political baggage, some senatorial warning is in order, Dean said.

"The resolution should be amended, not defeated, because the president needs to be reminded that separation of powers does not mean an isolation of powers," Dean said in prepared remarks. "He needs to be told he cannot simply ignore a law with no consequences."

lots more http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=84681

:)

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LSK

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:03 AM
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19. glad to see something come out of this!

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Coexist

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:03 AM
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20. YES!!!

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rodeodance

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:08 AM
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54. grand, thanks

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rodeodance

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:02 AM
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12. censure not punitive by doing checks and balances (Dean via Leahy)

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EVDebs

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:04 AM
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25. Congress acting in hysteria. At Bush's whim he can shred constitution

Fein's testimony is DEVASTATING !

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blm

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 AM
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I think Bruce Fein is doing the best job out of everyone so far.

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0007

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Fri Mar-31-06 11:02 AM
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14. Argh!

M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E

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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:03 AM
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17. Kennedy office respose...

all Dems don't agree with Feingold. My response was that they could at least agree to protect the constitution. Called all Dems. Very depressing. peace

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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:04 AM
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22. My response was that they could at least agree to protect the constitution

thats good - Welcome to DU!!!

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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:04 AM
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24. ARGH!!! So that allows them to shirk their duties???

:argh:

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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:04 AM
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26. yes, protect our Constitution. Obviously kennedy does not get this.

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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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44. What

a disgusting answer from his staff, definitely time for a house cleaning!!!!

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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:03 AM
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18. call these senators that Witch posted

-31-06 09:29 AM
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42. Call & ask where our Dems are! phone #s:
Fri Mar
Joe Biden
202-224-5042
state: Wilmington 302-573-6345
state: Milford 302-424-8090

DiFi
202-22403841
state: LA 310-914-7300
state: San Diego 619-231-9712
state: San Fran 415-393-0707
state: Fresno 559-485-7430

Dick Durbin
202-224-2152
State: springfield 217-492-4062
state: chicago 312-353-4952
state: marion 618-998-8812

Ted Kennedy
202-224-4543
state: boston 617-565-3170

Chuckie
202-224-6542
state: nyc 212-486-4430
state: buffalo 716-846-4111
state: albany 518-431-4070
state: binghamton: 607-772-6792
state: hudson valley 914-285-9741
state: long island 631-753-0978
state: rochester 585-263-5866
state: syracuse 315-423-5471

GO!

Qs: 'Why isn't the Senator attending today's meeting of the Judiciary Committee?"
"Why not?"
"Doesn't he think the testimony important?"
"Doesn't he think the issue worth debating?

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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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43. could you please fix that feinstein phone number in that post

this is the umpteenth time I've seen it with the wrong phone number

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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:03 AM
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21. Fein----IT HAS NO STOPPING POINT!!!

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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:05 AM
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32. He's straight and to the point!

Most effective witness!

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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:07 AM
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48. Fein just nailed it ! Congress is letting Bush do ALL of this litany of

covert spying without any accountability. Leahy ANGRY, no specifics on what is going on with Bush. Schmidt is just doing fig leaf "believe" the adminstration their motives are de facto pure, routine.

What B.S.

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:04 AM
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23. Fein: President can do elec surv, but Congress REGULATES it

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:04 AM
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27. Bush said in July 2002 Fisa working perfectly

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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:05 AM
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34. that's a new one! go fein!

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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:04 AM
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28. Fein has his points in a row. kick ass.

GOo Fein!

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:05 AM
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33. Frankly, he is a better witness than John Dean

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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:05 AM
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35. right now, but lets see where the questioning goes n/t

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Staph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:05 AM
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29. Interesting . . .

Both Specter and Leahy are only questioning Fein and Dean. They are ignoring the witnesses on the Republican point of view, as if they really don't have anything to say worth reviewing or questioning. To me this is a subtle point -- the only witnesses have details that need to be reviewed are those in favor of censure.

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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:05 AM
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30. If the other Dems are not there, does that mean Sen. Feingold

will get more questions in for the witnesses? Will Sen. Feingold be able to make his case without other Sens. taking the questioning time?

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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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41. No.

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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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36. Leahy is PISSED!

Wow!

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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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39. I understand you LEAHY!!!

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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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37. Leahy is dispelling myth that Pres. acted on 'credible' advice RERUSES

To answer the question. Leahy shouted that.

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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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38. Go Leahy---Nobody knows what the advice is

what advice... State it....

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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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40. Leahy SHOUTING!

He's on board with the censure for sure. Thank god!

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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:08 AM
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53. Raised voice, but not quite a shout. That wouldn't have raised the

head of hound dog a quarter mile away.

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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:12 AM
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81. Leahy saying he has requested the legal basis docs from WH but they

have REFUSED.

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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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42. go Leahy!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce:

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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:06 AM
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45. I feel like crying that it's only Pat supporting Feingold

Go Pat, He's losing that famous temper of his! I love my Senator.

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melissinha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:07 AM
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46. Leahy on fire

He is really supporting Fein's testimony.

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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:07 AM
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47. Orin Hatch would make Bush King if he could............

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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:08 AM
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56. Wow, 'the president can do whatever he pleases'-- Hatch eom

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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67. Thank goodness Hatch didn't make it as Supreme Court judge

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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:07 AM
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49. Did Hatch just say that all Presidents violate the law?

Wow

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:08 AM
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55. That seems to be a talking point du jour

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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:07 AM
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50. I called all the misssing Dem Senators.

Only one I could not connect with was Feinstein. Did anyone else speak to a snotty b####h in Durbin's office?

These people disgust me.

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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:08 AM
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I spoke to Durbin's office and they said

they did not know his schedule and I said his own office does not know what he is doing... No wonder things are so messed up.....

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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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61. Kiss His Ass Hatch... Smooch on up and pucker big........

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:07 AM
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51. Hatch going after John Dean now

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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:08 AM
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57. There he goes! Dean can handle it provided he's not cut off n/t

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:09 AM
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59. dean-didn't say the president could violate any existing statute

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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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66. ding! chair allows Turner to interrupt with BS

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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 AM
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69. there it is-"-Dems dont want to listen to OBL "BS

and allowed to sprew on and on and on

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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:07 AM
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52. UGH! Hatch...he'll hit Dean he is partisan

Check your mirror, Orin!

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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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62. Hatch, 'we don't know whether the pres. has violated...' And we'll never

allow that into Congressional oversight too, Hatch fails to add !

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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:08 AM
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58. FUCK YOU HATCH, EVERYONE WAS CREEPED OUT 3 DAYS AFTER 9/11

FUCKER!!! :grr:

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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60. Hatch cut off Dean and went to Turner

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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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68. Janet Parshall - I cant hear you!!!!

Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 AM by LSK

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berner59 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 AM
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70. Someone better ask Dean about his evidence...

Hatch was so rude..."you have no evidence..." Dean:"I have plenty of evidence!!" FU HATCH!!!!

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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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63. Dean is handling himself well, though.

Hatch had to switch to someone else because Dean was making his point.

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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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64. Hatch: President can do whatever he wants

Long live King Bush I!

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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:12 AM
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80. Moussaui not an agent of Al-Qeda? WTF?

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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM
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65. Excuse me. Where are the DEMOCRATS?

Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 11:10 AM by in_cog_ni_to

Why aren't they there???:grr: WTF is up with that?

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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 AM
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72. The Dems chose not to come. What's up is they turned Russ over to the R's

for roasting. This is a really serious effort to clip Feingold's primary feathers.

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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 AM
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73. Please call their offices and ask them.

The phone numbers are posted.

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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:12 AM
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75. We've all been tapping our foot on that one!

Phone numbers above...they're all shirking their duty (except Leahy and Feingold). Even Kennedy's office said "Not all Democrats agree with Senator Feingold" :wow:

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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:12 AM
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76. See Posts 7 & 8

I am so mad at them for doing this....

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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:12 AM
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77. Robt. Turner, didn't the 9-11 hijackers have 2 already under FBI

surveillance ?

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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 AM
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71. well, this Turner guy is a lying sack of shit.

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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 AM
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74. hearing this

makes me think that we are in real trouble in this country!!

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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:13 AM
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82. thats why winning Congress in November is so damn important

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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:12 AM
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78. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THREAD # 7 STARTED >>>>>> LINK

# 7

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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:12 AM
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79. What I want to ask the Judiciary Comittee witnesses:

Is it theoretically possible that a president .. any president .. can use his authority to create a classified program with a perfectly legitimate-sounding facade, but is really used in a bad way?

not whether THIS president is. whether it's theoretically possible to do so.

If so---

Who is the check on that power? Who is supposed to stop it?

And given the evidence, can we count the ways in which this president can be shown to be acting completely on the up-and-up?

Once you admit it's possible, it's very hard to refute that it's not happening.

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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:13 AM
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83. Locking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x804025

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