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they are clearly agreeing with us...


Which means that any statement by Senators that Feingold doesn't have support by the people, its misleading!

that will be invaluable over the next few years.

Feingold's hearings will matter in the long run, no matter how it gets spun by the media or BushInc today.

that little twerp? was he on?

he's come around a bit over the years

he used to be a doctrinaire koolaid swallower, but even he's apparently seen just how far this gang of thieves will go


EDIT to reflect your edit....HA!

he speaks out against the Bush criminals.

presentation. I listened to it on the radio and I almost drove off the road I was so floored at the points he, of all people, was making. I will look around for a transcript.

and so are the weak dfenses of the Republicans.

His main point that we really don't have information to really determine anything whatsoever is well taken.. I really don't think Republicans like secrecy.

How about the Republican who said Bush is an embarassment, shoudl be impeached and Clinton shoudl eb President????


To be fair I think a LOT of people listenting were people like us who want censure, I don't knwo if we can really gage much on these calls to C-Span, but there was only ONE Pro-Bush caller and quite a few were Republicans!

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THE NERVE AFTER DEMS DIDN'T BOTHER to show up for this hearing..well they will get an earful from me!

Dear xxxx,

What you do in the next 12 hours could well determine whether we celebrate on November 7.

Nothing would do more to change Washington and change the direction of our country than the election of a Democratic majority in the Senate. We can get halfway there if we help elect three new Democratic Senators in Tennessee, Ohio and Minnesota. But we can't do it without your help!


what a frigging joke!!!!!!!!!

fly

not showing up and then getting an email saying the most important next 12 hours..was..just too much!!

the most important thing to our democracy just happened and dems did not show up for it!

fly

in the long run. Because these issues always end up there eventually.

So it was more crucial for democracy as to WHO was put on the court.

the repugs sure did!

they always do...........

and ours..well they are still trying to find their tails....

fly

professional or even in an amiable manner and I think the resentment built up over that. There were Dems pushing the investigation aspect of the hearings and so that they obviously agreed with Russ - Kennedy, Leahy, Durbin and Jeffords - let's see what develops.

I also would have considered it bad form had Kennedy jumped to denounce all Democrats as cowering when they wouldn't stand with him to lead a filibuster against Alito after the judiciary hearings. If he had, he wouldn't have even gotten a handful of Dems to join filibuster.

the witnesses that did show up..and they disrespected the law of our land and our constitution..period the end..

they made themselves irrelevant forever!

fly

that is something that is happening.

I remember a few weeks ago when this censure action was first started and too many activists and blogs focused on it to the exclusion of all other senate and congressional actions.

That's when the crucial budget debate was happening and with the activists and left media distracted, the GOPs pushed ANWR drilling through - something they could NEVER do when the media and the left activists were paying attention.

The point being that WE - the collective left we - screwed up when WE weren't walking and chewing gum at the same time.

of the same Senate.. are they not?

and i suppose they didn't go back and forth did they????????

and Hassert said that bill may be debated but it is not going anywhere until after the 2006 election..it is too hot he said..

....and nothing is more important than our constitution..nothing takes presidence over the U.S.Constitution ..it is as vital to the American people as the air we breathe!
no bill or law can supercede it!

thats how i feel about it..i respect how you feel.. but that is how i feel ..


fly

Feingold got what he really wanted today - don't think he didn't.

He wanted more notice for the issue of NSA spying and he forced the media to cover it, plus the hearings forced the Republicans to DEFEND Bush's actions for the PUBLIC RECORD.

No matter what, today is part of the historic record, and that always matters in the long run. Feingold really won.

here's why...

treason
1: Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
2: A betrayal of trust or confidence.
3: a crime that undermines the offender's government
4: disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
5: an act of deliberate betrayal

Let them have their TREASONOUS VOTE on record. Bring it on.

BTW- As far as the IMPORTANCE of the Supreme Court...we ALL worked our asses off on that issue. Enough said.

and by that time, more Americans will be aware of the fascist agenda.

That's why no one was expecting him to have to step up and stand with Kennedy to lead a filibuster of Alito - we were all expecting a judiciary Dem to do it.

Has Kerry? Has anyone else?

He WANTED it there to have these hearings. Once he got it the best thing to do was support the investigation.

Kerry was the first senator to speak positively about censure once Feingold brought it up, and insisted that there must be an investigation - and that is why these hearings are being held. Didn't you pick that up from Durbin's appearance on the Sunday talk shows?

You do good work blm, and I appreciate you.

to deal with in the long run.

I occasionally get emotional and can understand where people are coming from, but, iin my view, t's up to us older activists to maintain focus on facts.

So, THE PRESIDENT BROKE THE LAW. WTF do we do with THAT fact?

;)

I DONT APPRECIATE RIPPING ON HIM WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS.

:grr:

ONLY NEW Democrats will get anything from me! Bryan Kennedy, Carl Sheeler, Ed Lamont, John Pavich (running against Weller in my District), the Band of Brothers and any other NEW DEMOCRAT running.. THAT'S IT! and RUSS FEINGOLD, of course.;) These people MUST GO!

senators and ONLY those senators?

Remember how we all expected a JUDICIARY committee Dem to stand with Kennedy to lead flibuster of Alito, and then when none would after two weeks, Kerry stepped up, even though he was on business in Europe for HIS OWN FINANCE COMMITTEE duties?

It wasn't that long ago.

and the contradiction is too much to take..got that??

we are getting emails saying the most important thing is to give dems money ..and yet what did we get for our money and support ?? a dem party that no- showed for one of the most important hearing of "my lifetime"

seems the rethugs could all show up to support the pres breaking the law..but dems couldn't make it there...to support holding the law breaker accountalbe..the hypocracy here doesn't strike some??

well it sure does me..i was told by kennedys office he had a long week..that was the excuse dejour...

i was told by bidens office he was in NY...so this obviously was not too important to him..but the dems asking me for more money is very important..just screw to hell my constitution by not showing up..but not to worry they still want my money!

its the hypocracy...its the blatant disreguard of my nations constitutional laws..thats the point..its the fact that those dems that did not show up..just showed their irrelevance!

fly

I wager you didn't attack Feingold as a cowering Dem when he refused to lead filibuster of ALito after the judiciary committee hearings, right? I didn't either - I wouldn't characterize any Dem I agree with over 90% of the time in that way.

Perspective.

fillibuster!

and please do not assume i am attacking..thats a big assumption.......

and my perspective is obviously different than your perspective..

so perspective is relevant to each of us in a different way...i respect yours. please respect mine!

the point of my posting kerrys campaign email was ...at the time of my constitution being ignored by senators of my party pissed me off big time..

but so did the passing of the patriot act, and dems signed off on it..

an illegal war was signed off on by some dems..

my party ignoring the voting machines that are stealing elections is in "my perception " wrong..

in "my perception" making congress irrelevant is wrong..and thats what was done today..

spying on me or any american in my perception is wrong..and yet THE REPRESENTATIVES of my party did not show up..."In my perception"...MY party did not stand up for the 4th amendment of the very document that by law they are sworn to protect.. laws that they are sworn to defend and to protect ..of my constitution...( of our constitution) ..this is not merely perception. This is fact...

Once again this government has failed the American people..another tragic day for democracy.

I called every senator on that committee's office today and heard every excuse in the book why they weren't there...

Kennedy has had a tough week you know!! a very busy week i was told........

in my perception that is total bullshit!

fly

Alito hearings - and he never stooped to attacking fellow senators as "cowering", even those who would not stand with him to LEAD a filibuster, which is alot different than just voting with a filibuster.

He's now deeply involved with the immigration debate going on now. He supported the investigatory aspects of the hearings and wrote demands for NSA documents with Leahy 2 weeks ago.

of them as well!! and we will continue to,until some in our party grow balls! and stand for whats right and constitutional!

i applaud Senator Feingold..i can not applaud any of the rest of them..for many many of their failures to do their job!

and i can no longer make excuses for their horrible failures!

fly

EVERY lawmaker is a mixed bag. If I had decided to dump every senator who didn't side with Kerry on exposing CIA drugrunning then there would be NO other senator I support now.

Or, just as important - PUBLIC FINANCING of CAMPAIGNS - the Clean Elections bill written by Kerry and Wellstone - if any ONE bill would have made a huge difference to democracy - THAT is the one.

Bottom line for me is that Feingold did what Kerry has done many times in the past - he preserved the historic record - in my view, he succeeded today. There is nothing to be glum about.

FYI - <http://judiciary.senate.gov/members.cfm> No one else
would be expected to be there. Besides, most biz is conducted
Tues-Wed-Thurs. Senators are probably (or should be) out in their
states drumming up support for the primary races, only a month out.

how many Dems have signed onto the censure resolution? 2!!!! Boxer and Harkin (and they aren't Judiciary committee members). That's it. Now, let us toss in the Judiciary Democrats who didn't bother to show up to SUPPORT Feingold on this issue and we have a party of USELESS Democrats. The Democrats were at the Scalito hearing at least. Where were they today? What's their excuse for not being there for this important hearing?

Whoever signs onto the resolution to support Feingold's censure will get a donation from me. No one else will. BUSH BROKE THE LAW AND THEY KNOW IT!!! WTF? What are they waiting for? If they had any intensions of supporting the censure they would have shown up today. They didn't. As I said, if someone signs onto the resolution to censure the bastard, they'll get my money, support and efforts. If not, FORGET IT.

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:hi: fly, how are you?

This appeal may have something to do with either the upcoming primaries' financial
reporting deadlines (Mar 31?) or maybe even some required, scheduled reports
for the national. Jes' sayin'
It IS the quarterly reporting deadline issue, so JK is on time with this...

Alright!

He was really getting worked up there near the end of his call. Dissing Rove and Libby, too!

from an area where there are real conservative republicans, and that he's never seen a republican like Bush in his life. Then, he pretty much went into a laundry list every good DU'er is familiar with: lying the country into a war, authorizing torture, etc, etc. He was talking faster and louder by the time he got to Rove and Libby, then his call was over.

Good call. I hope Can O' Fun puts it up later.

heh

forcing REpublicans to DEFEND Bush's lawbreaking on the PUBLIC RECORD.

Dn't let them spin it against him - TURN IT AROUND and GLOAT at what Feingold accomplished just having these hearings.

am I missing something??

and your marching robot cat, I know it's not a cat, but hey


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