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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:55 PM
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Can Cheney Save Bush's Presidency?
Can Cheney Save Bush's Presidency?
Submitted by davidswanson on Fri, 2005-12-30 20:29. Impeachment
By David Swanson

Talk of censure and impeachment has begun swirling around President Bush. Can Vice President Cheney come to the rescue? He will do so if enough of Bush's opponents adopt the position of this Philadelphia Daily News op-ed writer -- the position that impeaching Bush would be a mistake, since Cheney is worse than Bush.

That position is already fairly widespread on the left in the United States, and is typical of the left in the United States. Why must we get five steps ahead of ourselves in order to fantasize about defeat, precisely at the moment when we should be on the attack?

The Republicans impeached Clinton over his sex life without any hesitation. They did not remove him from office, of course. No one has ever (nonviolently) removed a president from office. But the impeachment of Clinton destroyed most of what little was left of a Democratic Party.


Let's examine these a little. Exactly how horrible would it be for Cheney to become president? Here is a man who couldn't win an election against a year-old pile of road kill. He'd be a lame duck and a major advertisement for voting against the Republican party. Currently he runs the show, but he does so backstage. The prospect of Bush replacing Cheney with someone else, should his heart fail, should give slightly more concern, but not much.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/6192
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:57 PM
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1. Bingo!
I have no fear of Bush's replacement. Bring 'em on.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:01 PM
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2. Cheney is also under investigation
By Default Cheney is dramatically involved in everything Bush thinks he's doing. Impeach Both who's next in line?
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:03 PM
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3. Hastert!?
nt
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:04 PM
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5. Need to wait until the Dems can select the Speaker of the House.
Having that person be Gore or Kerry could be arranged by a resignation, a residency change and an gubernatorial appointment.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:11 PM
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6. The Impeachment wouldn't occur until we take the house anyway
Now that would be a crazy turn of events.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:33 PM
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12. Conyers would be nice!
Or Maxine Waters or even Pelosi...
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 03:20 PM
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13. Murtha, Boxer?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:04 PM
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4. More fear mongering.
"Lay off Bush or you get Cheney".

But there is no reason to stop with Bush, there are a lot more in DC that need to spend time with their families.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:12 PM
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7. Less fear with putting that old bastard front and center
and in front of the cameras, into everyone's living room, sneer and all, explaining why robbing them blind to fatten rich old bastards like him is so good for them.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:15 PM
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8. Actually, that would be great.
Remove the insulation from that fucker, he's hurt this country enough.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:24 PM
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9. Is this a joke? What does the "left" have to do with the fact that Cheney
has been the one responsible for all of these assaults on the country?

Let's see.

Mr. Swanson attacks Democratic leaders like Howard Dean with snake venom and then he tries to sell the "typical left" on the merits of Cheney's presidency?

ROFL!!*** I have seen it all.

Are there some true colors shining Ive missed before?

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:29 PM
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10. Nobody can after we capture Congress next year.
That includes you, Dick. He'll resign and then Bush will be impeached.

Trust me.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:32 PM
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11. Billion Dollar Cheney
Please, no. He must be impeached at the same time as Bush. He is heinous.

http://www.boobooday.com/cheneyflash.htm
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