The New Year could bring us a shiny New War! no kidding

http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20051230-112208-8968r

WASHINGTON, Dec. 30 (UPI) -- The Bush administration is preparing its NATO allies for a possible military strike against suspected nuclear sites in Iran in the New Year, according to German media reports, reinforcing similar earlier suggestions in the Turkish media.

The Berlin daily Der Tagesspiegel this week quoted "NATO intelligence sources" who claimed that the NATO allies had been informed that the United States is currently investigating all possibilities of bringing the mullah-led regime into line, including military options. This "all options are open" line has been President George W Bush's publicly stated policy throughout the past 18 months.

But the respected German weekly Der Spiegel notes "What is new here is that Washington appears to be dispatching high-level officials to prepare its allies for a possible attack rather than merely implying the possibility as it has repeatedly done during the past year."

The German news agency DDP cited "Western security sources" to claim that CIA Director Porter Goss asked Turkey's premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide political and logistic support for air strikes against Iranian nuclear and military targets. Goss, who visited Ankara and met Erdogan on Dec. 12, was also reported to have to have asked for special cooperation from Turkish intelligence to help prepare and monitor the operation.

--------THIS is how they will get impeachment off the front page this year.

for maximum impact for 2006 midterms

and they'll be used as props for the re-election, they'll be exploited and buried away forever while rich fat white guys thrive.

Assuming that there remains the possibility of a fillibuster of a vote for authorization? Does anybody know if that's possible?

how many votes is required by congress to go to war?

they change rules and laws then do exactly as they are allowed.

Democrats are already regretting their votes for Iraq. I don't think they will fall for the same charade all over again...

gave him permission. He'll not be asking for any more votes for them to filibuster. sorry

He has stated repeatedly over the last 18 months that he has the power to do a preemptive strike on Iran in the name of US security. Bolton told him so.

Afghanistan gives him authority with any nation.

Unless they are able to successfully create more lies and smears about them, his polls, IMHO will drop like flies. Not go up as the Bush co. and others will predict. Even if he does make a convincing (lie) argument, people don't want another war, and I think that's clear. I really think this whoel thing will backfire one way or another. Or at least I really hope so :shrug:

Happy new year!

with the way this mis-administration manipulates, misleads, and ignores the constitution --- NONE

war thing is getting old and it must be stopped with junior and his crime cabal.

Shock em, sock em, do anything to grab the attention of the walking zombies that occupy space in this country.


junior doesn't mind not getting kissed

The IWR is boooosh's carte blanche to launch wars at his whim and whimsey. Do you think after being rolled for the past 4 years, Congress will wake up now? Think again.

The only thing Congress can do to slow down this runaway train is to cut funding for all military and intel operations...and that is as likely as DU becoming Repugnican Underground.

I've long posed the proposition that Democrats should press Repugnicans to get a full declaration of war...explain to the people what that really means. If this country is hell-bent on destroying "terrorists" or whatever boogie man this regime makes up, then let's do it right. Iraq...let's send in 500,000 troops and sit on the country if that's what this regime says it will take...but again, this is THEIR word and must be approved with a war declaration...not some worthless resolution. If Congress isn't willing to grant this authority, it not only proves this regime doesn't have the support of its own party, but also that many in that party believe that what has been conducted has been either inept or illegal or both.

Happy New Year...

authorization.

redundantly stating the obvious. So sorry.

resoultions to justify any action.

His current war isn't so popular at the moment, and somehow I don't think too many people will buy the WMD thing again. But I've been wrong before. ;)

some sort of situation where bush says, 'we simply must make war with iran because they have nukes and will use them on israel' or some such shit, just expect the worst.

One of the right's biggest pride points is that Bush has kept us safe since 9/11. I've heard over and over again, "there haven't been any new attacks, have there?" A new attack would make that moot.

maybe a horrible attack in turkey or jordan or saudi arabia, some sort of awful reason to conquer islam.

Well, I hope you're wrong. But I won't be surprised if you're right. I'm done being surprised by this administration.

i.e. IRAN has nukes, Iran will have nukes in 6 months.... has been in the MSM for months yadda yadda yadda

they'll be ramping up the propaganda and fear factor...

wouldn't be surprised if they announce the arrest of someone with ties to Iran and Al-qeada who supposedly had a nuke stuffed in his shoes

but I'd hope that after the mess in Iraq people wouldn't go for another War By Bush. But I've been shown time and time again that people in general are dumber than I think.

as someone once said "No one ever went broke by underestimating the stupidity of people...."

Our kids score 22nd or 23rd out of 25 countries on international math & science tests. Huge percentages of our population believe in angels and apparently a majority do not "believe in evolution" (whatever that means - I wonder if they "believe in gravity").

We live in a nation of fools. If it weren't for our natural resources and military might we would be a Third World country already, rather than having the prospect looming before us.

I weep for the future.

would be the second attack on a sovereign nation without provocation.

buried in. Can't tell your rich uncle he's a wing-nut while you're depending on him to pay the bills.

he says.

With our conventional forces tied up in Iraq -- how else will Bush deal with the fact that Iran's nukes will be online in about six months? If Israel does the deed -- it still amounts to the same thing.

Russia is tied to Iran. We are tied to Israel. Little has changed.

Only serious diplomacy can keep WW III from breaking out next year.

who do we call for an out of control gov when our leaders don't wanna listen to us?

peace

Iran has signed energy deals with Japan and China. They also have the capacity to shut down the Strait of Hormuz through which all of the oil from the Persian Gulf must pass. An attack on Iran is an attack on the energy/economic interests of two countries that finance the U.S.'s massive borrowing binge. And with the Strait of Hormuz as a war zone - gasoline here would leap multifold in price.

I don't know about this bunch.

And let's not forget what happened the last time gas prices leapt multifold. The oil companies reported record profits.

I'm sure Israel would be more than happy to do air strikes on Iran for President Lying Sack of Shit. Bush would then be able to say he didn't do it.
All that matters to the PNAC is the oil, and turning Israel into America's 51st state.

Probably not, considering the Bush track record in Iraq. Somehow I doubt the Iranians will simply sit back and absorb a coordinated attack by US/Israeli/NATO forces. And I would be surprised if that meant fighting us "over there."

our hostile aggressive attack? Iraq was a virtual throw-a-way. Saddam wasn't popular and there was an assumption that * would remove him and go away. He didn't.

The World is on to this regime. If not China, then name a coalition, maybe NATO, that would go in, not so much to protect Iran, but rather to contain U.S. military power. The Europeans for instance have long memories and rue that they let Hitler get away with invasions for years before he became a problem for the rest of them.

They've signed an exclusive oil deal with them and will want to protect their interests. Unless of course, an overthrow of the Iranian government would be better for them somehow.

One Batallion in Kuwait, cooling their heels, and another staying stateside, while at the same time there's more people being told "Surprise! You're doing SUCH a great job we're letting you stay another year!"

No doubt we're going to Tehran, just exactly WHEN is still a mystery...

Sending the Petrodollar into a tail spin. There is the possibility that the Euro will become the currency of choice for oil. This possibility provides some motive as to why German newsgroups are hyping this.

I mean, *'s own words make China and Russia just as guilty of terrorism too. And I think they believe that too.

the same group of folks that control the government - corporations, the military-industrial complex, rich white guys, call it what you will. It's in their interest to keep the people in the dark about what goes on in their corridors of power and greed.