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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:35 PM
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Rachel Maddow and Richard Wolf discuss Obama's brilliant response to Bush
 
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Liked Rachel's comments in this one.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:39 PM
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1. Can we say "Obama repeated Kerry's 2004 response word for word" - & that worked well in 04
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Dookiestix Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:45 PM
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5. Can we say...
...that '08 is NOTHING like '04, and that Obama is FAR better at immediately countering this BS from the right then Kerry ever was in '04.

Besides, we now know what the true definition of appeasement is. And as per usual, the Republicans seem to have a major problem when it comes to actually understanding the meaning behind the word.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:44 PM
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2. Rachel Maddow for White House Press Secretary!
:woohoo:
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:58 PM
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10. I was thinking Jon Stewert....
Rachel Maddow needs her own show on MSNBC though.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:18 PM
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3. "What we're seeing is a candidate who isn't twisted into a pretzel because of his vote on the war"
Perfect analysis by Richard Wolf and THE reason why Hillary CANNOT be our nominee.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:24 PM
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4. it was so nice to have Rachel sitting in for Keith.
so competent she is.
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:50 PM
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11. she deserves more exposure
competent, articulate, her comments have substance
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trickyguy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:15 PM
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6. Rachel is one smart lady. I've always liked her and today her "pretzel" remark
was right on the money as far as I'm concerned. And she would make a really good Press Secretary.

I'd listen to her comments on just about anything. And I think she secretly supports Obama.:evilgrin:
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:00 PM
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7. Did Rachel make the "pretzel" remark?
I think it was her guest - Richard Wolffe of Newsweek magazine.

Maddow would make a great real-life CJ Cregg, but maybe she needs more space to express herself?

I am sure that Rachel does support Barack Obama. She is always ready to defend him.

But I'm not saying that's a bad thing. B-)


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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:08 PM
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8. she is smooth....she needs her own show
nt
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:33 PM
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9. Prescott Bush traded and help finance the Nazi War machine until he was
...stopped in 1942 under the "Trading With The Enemy Act". Those actions were much more than appeasement, they were treason!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:57 PM
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12. Yes those acts were treasonous. And few people stop to consider that
Edited on Mon May-19-08 06:58 PM by truedelphi
Sometimes appeasement is good - if Chamberlin had goaded Hitler, saying, "Go ahead - bring it on!" like some powerful doofus' might, and then Hitler had begun assaulting Great Britain with aerial warfare - Britain would have been one big heap of rubble.

Far better for a nation like Britain, that had little in the way of anti airforce guns and few planes of its own, to temporarily appease the Big Power, and during the months of appeasement get its war machinery up and running than for it to encourage a war it couldn't yet fight.
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WinstonSmith4740 Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:43 PM
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13. I truly, truly wish I could remember where I read it,
But I remember reading an article a few years back that pretty much stated just that. England was in NO shape to stand up to Hitler...they had something like 8 war planes and their army, having been stretched by their imperialism (India, etc)was in no shape to take on such an enemy. Our congress (according to this article) actually threatened FDR with impeachment when he attempted to sell planes to England. In the year that Chamberlain bought for England by signing that non-interference/aggression pact with Hitler, they were able to gear up and build up to the point they could at least keep Hitler out of England until we got our butts into the war.

If this theory is right (and it sounds pretty reasonable) Chamberlain's "treason" may have saved the world from Hitler's complete domination. Imagine what would have happened if Hitler ran over England like he did the rest of Europe. Where would we have been able to stage from? Prepare our troops? Get our supplies into and out? D-Day? It would have never happened. The world would have been screwed, folks.

The U.S. of course, didn't win the war by ourselves...we never have given the Russians enough credit for making Hitler fight a war on two fronts. And while the bravery of the British is legendary, we also tend to overlook just how dangerous it was to truly be part of the underground in those days.

This transformation of the American way of life has been slow and insidious. It really started at the end of WWII, when we got some of those bastards out of Germany and set them up in our fledgling "national security/military industrial complex". It hasn't just been since Bush the Stupid stole office in 2000. He has managed to speed it right along tho. He's been able to do more damage than Nixon, Reagan, and Bush the Elder combined.

It's been a long time comin'. It's just picked up steam since 9/11.:tinfoilhat:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:49 PM
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14. Correct, it really began when JFK was assassinated and we got fully sucked into
...the quagmire of Vietnam and the Southeast Asian war, that last gasp struggle of British, Dutch and French imperialism.

Iraq and the middle east with Palestine and Lebanon and Afghanistan and Iran have their root causes in British and French Imperialism as well.

There seems to be a pattern here! :wtf:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:43 PM
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15. Obama does respond brilliantly
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:57 AM
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16. He does need more surrogates on the tv and in media,very important
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