Yippee...the Florida "bramble bush" video is back up at You Tube

Run time: 00:47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r25wUeMAwdE   Posted on YouTube: April 03, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: May 22, 2008 By DU Member: madfloridian Views on DU: 2441

 
This wonderful video disappeared from You Tube for a while. Imagine my joy to see it back up now.

Steve Geller is the Florida Senate minority leader for the Democrats. He is the one who proposed an amendment about the primary...and then mocked it right out in the open.



After all the efforts to convince people that Florida Demcrats went right along with the GOP since early 2006...there has been little success on my part.

The party spokesman in March 2006 said the Democrats were "all for it".

They voted for the early primary by the vote of 115 to 1. They are still in denial. They still claim they acted in in good faith..which was all they had to do to keep their delegates.

Yay Yay to whomever got this video back up. Thank you so much.

Why don't they wait for the meeting on May 31?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6076377

a few hundred people going to a party in Denver. What they did was to cynically assume that the convention was a bullshit formality and that by giving Florida voters a chance to vote early they would get media attention (and money) so their election would be relevant even though they would get no delegates. They did this very deliberately. And this is the single election in decades in which had Florida and Michigan had their primary at their usual date they would have been very, very relevant and had delegates to the convention. Geez.

And Jeremy Ring, a Democratic state senator from Broward County and co-sponsor of the legislation, defended it.

"If the choice is Florida is relevant and has no delegates versus being irrelevant and having delegates, I'd choose being relevant with no delegates," Ring said. "We did this so 18 million Floridians could take part in the presidential primaries, not so a few hundred people can go to a party in Denver."

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1935

and save it on your computer in case it is pulled down again. Download the program "TubeTV" for free and you can easily download videos from YouTube.

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I hope someone saves it before it disappears again.

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Luftmensch067 googled it for me from this thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=388x5082

just in case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfmcYQu38hU

The source of the first one was believe it or not...the RNC research files.

I guess they were convinced to take it down.

After they took it down I went to their website and searched the videos and downloaded it. so many cover ups it's unbelievable.

Wonder what FL connections got them to take it down? Hmmm...interesting.

I am sure glad you put it back up.

Kudos and a :toast:...now we have some folks backing it up.

Glad I could help

Do not worry, I'm sure many like myself have already made a copy so it can never go *missing* again.

I WILL NOT not take it down. I had to find it after it was removed and when I did I downloaded it and posted so that I could help spread the truth. Crooked crooked people...

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because it clears up so much.

time being confused? Why couldn't Florida vote after February? As it is it was only a few weeks before they could have held the vote and have the delegates seated. The way they did it made it just as if we, (Floridian here) could have voted a year ago and had the same non-voice in the election.

I don't understand why Florida and Michigan would not move their elections to after February 2.

Rules be damned.

my view is, that Florida and Michigan were big for Clinton, and if they voted early, they would make the math, and the argument harder for the other candidates (namely Edwards, at the time, who was her biggest perceived threat).

I don't know about Michigan, but Clinton has obsessive allies in this State's party, (she goes to her super secret prayer group with Bill Nelson's wife) and they sure pushed getting us in early. Remember, she had no plan in place for after Super Tuesday - she was supposed to have the nomination wrapped up by then.

That is my opinion on pushing Florida up.

she is using my state as a way to keep going like the energizer bunny...so, IMO yes.

after hearing this.

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If this was an organized effort by the Clinton campaign, then her supporters on the Rules Committee (all twelve of them) wouldn't have voted in favor of stripping Florida's delegates. However, due to the fact that those within the leadership of the FDP who pushed for this all declared their support for Sen. Clinton early, they will continue to face this allegation. There may even be some truth to it, but it's very rare that you have surrogates making this kind of organized power play without support from other elements within the campaign. I don't, however, completely dismiss the charge. If the FDP leadership has demonstrated one thing throughout this mess, it is their collossal ineptitude.

This has more to do with increasing the fundraising capacity of the FDP by holding an early contest, and less to do with any specific candidate.

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I'm an inspired Canadian...

You made me so happy.

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Thanks, madfloridian! Everyone who has been fighting with me about this should see this video.

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I am so awfully angry tonight I don't even know how to express it. I am sure you will come out with something lovely tomorrow, but I'm out of control with these Clintonistas this evening. I have hated these people for such a long time but tried to be even-handed for the sake of ME! Hillary has me in tears at this moment and I can hear the dog whistle because I can. This sucks on a scale of 1 to 10 by 20. I don't cry a lot and I am at an impasse with my Canadian other. Not with her mom, just with her laughing at my pain.

in Broward. Interesting timeline. No further comment.

Geller meets with Hillary



The next day he announced his lawsuit against the DNC.