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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:31 PM
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TYT: Clinton Gave Voters Permission To Be Racist
 
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:41 PM
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1. K&R nt
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:46 PM
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2. great analysis Cenk is on the money
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:14 PM
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3. So if you don't support Obama, you're racist.
Wonderful logic.

Unifying. An election-winner.

There's also about a dozen posts of the Hillary-as-Hitler YouTube "comedy".

Good times.

:eyes:

--p!
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:51 PM
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4. Same as if you don't support Hillary, you're a sexist and an elitist. She drew first blood as ususal
Cenk can make that argument for Obama, but no where do you see Obama using that argument as scripture.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:55 PM
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5. "She drew first blood ... "
Yeah, right.

And the Axelrod Memo had NOTHING to do with it.

:eyes:

--p!
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:50 PM
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7. I will leave the idiot department to you. I have no experience when it comes to that =/
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:06 PM
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8. I'm lovin' that Hope and Change
"I will leave the idiot department to you. I have no experience when it comes to that =/"

When it sounds like stand-up comedy night at the local community college, you can be certain there's an Obama fanatic around.

--p!
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:23 PM
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6. need some extra straw to finish that?
Where did Cenk say that not supporting Obama makes you racist?

People who voted for Clinton aren't racists, but racists voted for Clinton and she embraced their votes. See how that works?

It's ironic that you'd castigate Cenk for his "wonderful logic" while exhibiting a complete inability to think logically yourself.

Where it comes to condemning the Clintons--and what they're talking about in the video, if you actually bothered to watch it--is that the Clinton campaigned didn't try to dissuade these racist voters from their racist impulses. If reminding those racists in WV, for instance, that Obama was black ensured that they'd vote for her, then she'd do it--it doesn't mean she personally would have a problem with voting for a black man, nor does it mean that voting for her makes you a racist. What it does mean is that she and her campaign had no qualms about exploiting existing racial prejudices in order to get votes from ignorant racist hicks. She'd go to a Klan rally if it meant she'd get more votes--not because she's racist, but because she has no shame.

And the Hillary-as-Hitler YouTube video is really a parody of a parody, so stop pretending it's not funny, or that it violates Godwin's Law. There were already ones made regarding Tom Brady, outsourcing customer service, Windows Vista, etc., and it's all very funny (though some are better than others).
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:57 AM
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10. And another amateur comedian cracks wise
Yeah, I've seen TYT, as well as a whole lot of other calculatedly angry, hip firebrands who have fallen in love with their new Messiah. Do you really think they are NOT going to cherry-pick their material to present Clinton as evil and Obama as virtuous? Their worldview is about as analytical as manga -- good vs. evil with brilliant 20-something guys (like TYTs) as the heroes.

"People who voted for Clinton aren't racists, but racists voted for Clinton and she embraced their votes. See how that works?"

I do see how that works. You're trying to convince me that you can read minds and determine who is guilty of racism -- especially Hillary Clinton. But you want people to think you're a deep thinker, so you've dressed it up in a suitably philosophical rationale, and rhetorically shackled Clinton to the Klan. It sounds like the pinnacle of formal logic and social consciousness, but it's still just college-educated lying.

So how do you know who is and who isn't a racist? We just have to assume all Hillary voters are racists (and "ignorant racist hicks") until you tell us otherwise. Because you, and TYT, etc., are more intelligent than we are.

By the way, about those "ignorant racist hicks" ... WV was home to a large abolitionist movement. It seceded from the Confederacy and moved to abolish slavery a few months later. The city folk were pro-slave, but not the "hicks". They're only "hicks" because of your own socially-acceptable bigotry -- and because they voted for someone other than Barack Obama.

"... she and her campaign had no qualms about exploiting existing racial prejudices in order to get votes"

And if you repeat it often enough, people may actually believe you. Which is scary.

"And the Hillary-as-Hitler YouTube video is really a parody of a parody, so stop pretending it's not funny, or that it violates Godwin's Law. There were already ones made regarding Tom Brady, outsourcing customer service, Windows Vista, etc., and it's all very funny (though some are better than others)."

Yeah, dictate to me what's funny and what isn't, and use Internet 'leet references ("it violates Godwin's Law") to make your sophomoric case. Because everybody has the same cultural references that you do. But it's still Hillary-as-Hitler. Let's put Obama's face onto a picture of a klansman and see how that works, shall we? But wait -- we can make a sly inside joke about MacOS to cover our asses! Laugh, damn it, laugh! And no pretending it isn't funny!

You have proven my point for me -- anyone who supports Clinton can be assured of being accused of racism (and a long list of other personal failings). The accuser will hide behind the double-speak of " ... but not everyone who votes for Clinton is a racist. Only we know the difference. And we're not saying." This is the Axelrod Strategy. It has served Obama -- and his followers -- well.

The accusations of racism were http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html">predictable AND http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/the-clyburn-factor.html">predicted weeks in advance.

Team Obama is going to blame, hector, intimidate, and insult half the Democratic party into voting for John McCain, lose the election -- and blame it all on Hillary. Except that by that time, no one will believe a word that it has say.

--p!
"What I am absolutely convinced of is that everybody here is committed to racial equality (and have) been historically."
Barack Obama, Las Vegas Democratic Primary Debate, January 15, 2008
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:12 PM
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9. I heard Hillary talk and she said ..hard working Americans...hard working white Americans
as if blacks are NOT hard working..sorry THAT is when she lost me completely!!!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:06 AM
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11. 20% said they voted based on race - and 90% of those voted for Clinton
Deny the facts all you want, but that means in KY at least 25% of the people who voted for Clinton were admitted racists. That is a demographic that she has sought out.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:15 AM
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12. Racists don't seek permission..what Hillary did was make
it fashionable to admit one would not vote for Obama on account of his race. Oh if the roles were reversed and people were saying they'd not vote for Hillary because she's a woman, the NOW crowd would be up in arms! Oy vey, the cry would be heard in China! Waaaa...they're beating up on her because she's a woman..waaaa waaa waaa....boo hoo boo hoo
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bluereality Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:26 PM
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13. Tyt?
Funny name, hehe.
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