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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:43 PM
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What Does RFK's Assassination Have to Do with It?
 
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:44 PM
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1. She's just sayin'. . .
nothing is beyond the Bush/Clinton crime family.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:47 PM
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3. I'm voting Obama, but she has a point, and she did win in California. Ergo, she's in.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:51 PM
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6. She has a point about CA, but the insertion of the RFK assassination is just creepy.
Really, she could have just said she won CA and the thing about Bill and left it at that.
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1_cali_dem Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:40 PM
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37. exactly..
I saw the report on cnn earlier today and was like OMG! No she didn't just say that. She no thinkee before she speakee
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:09 AM
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40. She's disgusting
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:04 PM
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39. she did "win" in california. do you believe in diebold central tabulators?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:45 PM
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2. Fucking evil person. And all who support her after this.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:51 PM
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4. she's a freak show. if the dems still don't do anything about her i'm appalled.....
Randy Rhodes compared Hillary Clinton yesterday to that psycho freak on the bus. You don't want to look because you're afraid of the threat she poses to your safety, and you try not to listen because the psychotic mumbo-jumbo she's gurgling out is downright disturbing and freakshow, but sometimes you do hear and pray for the next stop....

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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:51 PM
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5. Hillary is putting out 'code' or a 'feeler' for her KKK voters
to make it happen. She is classless trash.
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:52 PM
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7. i still don't understand what the RFK assassination has to do with her staying in the campaign...
can someone please explain this to me? thanks.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:58 PM
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10. In short...She is waiting for Obama to die off one way or another. They just need time to setup =/
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:02 PM
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13. another reason he "needs" her as VP...
but is there a "good" reason for her to bring this shit up?
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:37 PM
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35. "If I can't have Pres. give me VP or DIE". Hers is subtle but gets her message across all the same
Edited on Fri May-23-08 05:38 PM by raystorm7
Isn't Politics fun!
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:51 PM
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38. He better wear a flak jacket if he chooses Hillary as his VP
she's already out there hoping to inspire some whacko to take away her Obama problem.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:53 PM
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8. And some think I'm crazy for suggestion she and her ilk may do Obama in if they have the chance.
Just look at that brain work its Evil.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:54 PM
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9. Did she just threaten a presidential candidate?
:shrug:
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:58 PM
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11.  but, but but, California voted in February...so June is moot..unless
assassination is on your mind??
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:01 PM
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12. "This race isn't over until... well, we all remember RFK was killed in CA in June..."
she's counting on assassination to win?
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:05 PM
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15. It worked for Nixon.
The same guys are still running the show from backstage.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:04 PM
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14. she doesn't understand AlOT. like the anger felt by dem's for using the RFK assasination...
as an argument for her staying in the race? UNFUKINBELIEBABLE, on so many levels: The comparisons of Obama's campaign for the people with RFK's; the fears people(especially african-americans) have for barack's safety; his brother Teddy's grave health. It like she's adopted the bushism: IF YOU ARE NOT WITH HER YOU ARE AGAINST HER. I'm disgusted.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:10 PM
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16. So her path to the White House
Goes through the frontrunner's grave?

We have to stop waiting for her to quit. Someone-- Howard Dean?-- has to fire her, before she does any more damage.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:11 PM
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17. Ya'll have totally jumped the shark on this one.
She is stating the facts. Plain and simple. And questioning why the rush to "end it" so soon.

Lay off the kool-aid for a few days. You've had enough already.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:18 PM
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23. So mentioning the '68 primaries REQUIRES mentioning the assassination?
The fact that the primaries carried on until June in '68 is nothing without mentioning the assassination?

And is that the ONLY other time that the primaries carried on this long? If not, why single out '68?
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:03 PM
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32. Paul Lazzaro said it best
Edited on Fri May-23-08 05:03 PM by mythyc
Go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. Go take a flying fuck at the moon.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:11 PM
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18. self deleted.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 04:13 PM by stlsaxman
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:13 PM
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19. Noting that the '68 primaries went to June DOES NOT require mentioning the assassination.
Despicable, unwise, but CONSCIOUS move on her part.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:13 PM
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20. hint, hint: KILL OBAMA PLEASE. despicable person. what a fuckin shit.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 04:14 PM by goletian
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:14 PM
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21. I think she jsut lost her train of thought. It's not helping to be negative on HRC.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 04:15 PM by cooolandrew
I know it's not always easy but we have to make nice now for the sake of November.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:17 PM
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22. Am I surprised?
Wake the fuck up people, she's a neocon!
A smart McCain! Bu$h(Cheney) in a pant suit!

What do you think the DLC is all about?

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:19 PM
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24. Historically it DOES make sense you fuck
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:31 PM
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26. the title is what was on YouTube - as in why did she add that part? nt
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:33 PM
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27. I was responding to Hillary
she says that it doesn't make sense historically for the nomination to be wrapped up before the convention.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:34 PM
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28. right - we're all stressed out here :(
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:40 PM
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36. Just to finish that thought ...
How do you think it makes sense historically?

a) Because all the primaries are months earlier this time?

b) Because the GOP has their nominee who is getting a head start on the GE?

c) Because the opposition has a lot more money and a lot more points of attack (e.g. swiftboaters) in 2008 than in 1992, meaning that the Dems need to get on with it now?

All of the above?
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:12 AM
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42. Thank you!
Can you believe these people???

Wotta sad, sad case of "Gotcha!"

And what I am saying has nothing to do with Hillary herself. It's about the intellectual level of America.

Sad, sad.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:29 PM
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25. Good reason for her to stay in the campaign if she is anticipating something like this.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:43 PM
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29. K&R
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:44 PM
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30. Hardball question for Hillary
Can anyone tell us reasons why a political candidate would invoke assassination as a reason to continue running in a race which there is no mathematical way of winning possible?
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:58 PM
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31. Thought Dominoes


In a nutshell ... her comments today really make a person wonder where she is.

The 'thought dominoes' really start to fall.

So, in a discussion about why Hillary is staying in the race she brings up the month of June, Bill's campaign, and the RFK murder.

Is she ...

- Thinking we can rest at ease that she'll be there to save the day if something befalls the delegate leader?
- Thinking she fears for her party if something happened to the delegate leader and alone bears the responsibility to stay in the race if it happpens?
- Thinking something will happen to the delegate leader, and of course she hopes she will be there to pick up the pieces and be the Democratic Party's nominee?
- Thinking that her hope's to be the Party's nominee rest on the '08 Democratic delegate leader befalling the same fate as the '68 Democratic delegate leader?
- Hoping that the '08 Democratic delegate leader befalls the same fate as the '68 Democratic delegate leader?
- Planing to hire thugs to make sure the fate of the '08 Democratic delegate leader befalls the same fate as the '68 Democratic delegate leader?

Regardless of what her thoughts are, if she has any in her noggin at all right now, she now has people thinking and discussing what we should not be thinking and discussing.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:07 PM
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33. Hillary: "Your better nominees always keep the primary season going until June."
Edited on Fri May-23-08 05:10 PM by Fridays Child
"You know, like my husband, Bobby Kennedy...and me."

That's what she's trying to say. It's an arrogant and ill-conceived position for her to take but there you go.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:35 PM
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34. Interesting interpretation
But millions of Americans initial interpretation cannot be deemed unreasonable... Monday there will be a clear nominee...
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:50 AM
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41. anyone claiming that this was just an innocuous reference is delusional . . .
everything that Hillary says in this campaign has an agenda behind it . . . and in this case, it's obvious that she's floating the possibility that a minority candidate may be in danger if nominated . . . she can feign innocence all she wants, but there was absolutely no other reason to raise the assassination issue, and her doing so is one of the more despicable political tactics in my memory . . . this alone should disqualify her for any consideration for either the presidential or the vice presidential nomination . . . just a disgusting display of amoral hubris . . .
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